No. iPhone 17 Pro for me and Pro Max for my friend. I don’t have a 5G android to test with unfortunately.

I’m seeing SA too. However, 18ms ping and a massive 4mb upload says otherwise.

Aucklandjafa:

 

I’m seeing SA too. However, 18ms ping and a massive 4mb upload says otherwise.

 

iPhone? Which location (Auckland?)?

I appear to be live on 5G SA now as I just made a call over cellular and it didn't drop back to 4G as it usually would, so presumably VoNR is also live.

Just made a call on One NZ with the same device and confirmed that it drops back to 4G when making a call on 5G. So would appear to further confirm my results above.

boosacnoodle:

 

I appear to be live on 5G SA now as I just made a call over cellular and it didn't drop back to 4G as it usually would, so presumably VoNR is also live.

 

To the best of my knowledge the iOS Carrier bundle for Spark (https://cupboardunderscore.github.io/ios-rcs/5gsa/) is not configured for 5G SA. You can still show a 5G icon whilst connected to 4G if the network signals as such using ULI, it's possible Spark has changed their ULI behaviour in this regard. 

Do you have the 5G Standalone toggle in iOS settings? If so, can you toggle it off for Spark and see if the behaviour changes during a call?

boosacnoodle:

 

Just made a call on One NZ with the same device and confirmed that it drops back to 4G when making a call on 5G. So would appear to further confirm my results above.

 

That is not conclusive at all as I can make VoNR voice calls on 5G NSA on One NZ.

Don't believe anything the iOS field test says. That app that frequently reports One NZ has 80 MHz LTE channels among many other bugs...

KiwiSurfer:

 

That is not conclusive at all as I can make VoNR voice calls on 5G NSA on One NZ.

 

Don't believe anything the iOS field test says. That app that frequently reports One NZ has 80 MHz LTE channels among many other bugs...

 

That wouldn't be a VoNR call, you would be dropping to LTE (only) when you begin the call (EPS Fallback), however you may still see a 5G Icon if the LTE is has ULI set in the signalling (even if your phone has dropped the NR secondary carrier). It's just a VoLTE call at that point.

VoNR requires the call to go through the 5G Core which would require Standalone

And yeah, the iOS FTM reporting doesn't mean much. If it's showing SA then most likely that's just because Spark has a 5G Core, not because you can actually register on it.

Spark has had a 5G core for a long time now, at least for some customers. The only time I've previously seen 5G SA available has been on their Palmerston North test tower some months back. Now it appears to be available Christchurch wide.

Has literally no one here got an Android phone that supports 5G on Spark and able to check for us? Seems implausible.

5G SA is definitely being tested on Spark's network, and I expect much like the initial 5G rollout it will be an unmistakable song and dance once it's available to the public. I don't have any hard dates but I'm certain given their position in the stock market they'll want to let everyone know if they're first to market.

As to if they will be, I don't have any comparative insight.

Still no one with an Android on Spark?

boosacnoodle:

 

Still no one with an Android on Spark?

 

Still nothing on my Prepaid SIM in Wellington, I can talk to the 5G Core (which is more than can be said about One or 2d) but just the same "N1 Mode Not Allowed" as before.

Perhaps a pay monthly plan can access it, but I don't have access to a pay monthly SIM to try. It's also possible it's only provisioned if it detects a certain phone model (just like how Spark still handles access to normal 5G NSA) on your account.

Appears to still be no 5G SA nor VoNR or RedCap support in NZ.

Spark had an announcement about, what they call, 5G+ (presumably 5G SA) to come in the following months. Everyone else appears to be silent on this.

coffeebaron:

 

Or maybe mm waves? A stadium is one place where you could certainly implement mm wave frequencies.

 

I know the NZ Variant of the iPhone does not support MMwave I have a US Variant which does...

if you are in massive, crowded stadium with 60000+ people sayat ANZ stadium in Sydney you are the only people getting service everyone else is sitting there struggling

This includes the international version of the iPhone sold in AU/NZ yet these stadiums are equipped with mmwave.

NOTE: this looks to have changed with the iPhone Duo and iPhone 18 lineup

Because we have not adopted mmwave in NZ try using your phone at Eden Park, MT Smart, of the Caketin in Wellington is just hopeless

Haven't been to Christchurch's new One NZ stadium. Anyone experienced it? I didn't see any complaints online about connectivity issues there. Each carrier appears to have their own gear within the stadium. If there was ever an example where it would make sense to share gear, surely it's in a stadium.