Will we see 5G widely rolled out before 6G arrives?

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#2949741 2-Aug-2022 14:47

old3eyes:

Moved down the road a couple of Km and it was fine. I guess technology moves on.

Like everything else, the B747, NEAX, Analogue TV, Audio Cassette, Carbon Paper, all biting the dust!

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#2949742 2-Aug-2022 14:48

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Surprised it has taken so long.

Blame lack of VOLTE Roaming

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#2949744 2-Aug-2022 14:49

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old3eyes:

Moved down the road a couple of Km and it was fine. I guess technology moves on.

Like everything else, the B747, NEAX, Analogue TV, Audio Cassette, Carbon Paper, all biting the dust!

Next thing you'll be saying are that the buggy whip makers have gone as well..

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#2955018 15-Aug-2022 17:29

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Linux: The issue with turning off 3G is inbound roaming customers! Until VoLTE roaming is done on a large scale it would be a silly move

Vodafone still have 2g, last I tried it, still worked for voice calls.

2G will also remain longer than 3G because certain technical services run over it. We switched off 3G completely here at the end of the last year and almost no one noticed (except for a few mobile phones from the stone age).

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#2955164 16-Aug-2022 08:41

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2G will also remain longer than 3G because certain technical services run over it. We switched off 3G completely here at the end of the last year and almost no one noticed (except for a few mobile phones from the stone age).

So phones that don't have VoLTE are out of the stone age. I bet there a a million or so phones out there that won't be able to make calls if 3G is shutdown.

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#2955195 16-Aug-2022 09:49

old3eyes:
Tinkerisk:

2G will also remain longer than 3G because certain technical services run over it. We switched off 3G completely here at the end of the last year and almost no one noticed (except for a few mobile phones from the stone age).

So phones that don't have VoLTE are out of the stone age. I bet there a a million or so phones out there that won't be able to make calls if 3G is shutdown.

And the issue is?

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#2955200 16-Aug-2022 09:55

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old3eyes:

So phones that don't have VoLTE are out of the stone age. I bet there a a million or so phones out there that won't be able to make calls if 3G is shutdown.

And the issue is?

Not everyone is as rich as you and buys new phones every year or two. There are lots of old people out there with candy bars and older smart phones and the like that are 3G and maybe 4G but I bet none of them will do VoLTE. Unless the telcos give at least 2 to 3 years notice that 3G will be closed down I would assume the likes of Consumer would be on the case fairly quickly.

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#2955215 16-Aug-2022 10:07

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The majority of rcg sites are VOLTE only so the onus is not on the mobile providers to maintain 3G enabled sites. All 3G networks in the US are now switched off excluding the Verizon CDMA network which shuts down in two months.

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#2955242 16-Aug-2022 10:42

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@old3eyes

The majority of rcg sites are VOLTE only so the onus is not on the mobile providers to maintain 3G enabled sites. All 3G networks in the US are now switched off excluding the Verizon CDMA network which shuts down in two months.

Yes I know all the US except for Verizon's CDMA is being switched off and I believe that gets switched off end of this year and Australia buy the middle of 2024. Maybe we should plan for the end of 2024..

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#2955267 16-Aug-2022 10:51

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Australia hasn't a rural 4G only network like RCG sites here. 3G radio spectrum is better used for 4G or 5G as the practice in some other countries in the world.

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#2955268 16-Aug-2022 10:53

ajw:

@old3eyes

Australia hasn't a rural 4G only network like RCG sites here. 3G radio spectrum is better used for 4G or 5G as the practice in some other countries in the world.

Agree 100%

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#2955272 16-Aug-2022 10:59

old3eyes:

Tinkerisk:

2G will also remain longer than 3G because certain technical services run over it. We switched off 3G completely here at the end of the last year and almost no one noticed (except for a few mobile phones from the stone age).

So phones that don't have VoLTE are out of the stone age. I bet there a a million or so phones out there that won't be able to make calls if 3G is shutdown.

Indeed, with a 5G coverage of >86.5% and a 4G coverage of 99% (4G since 10 years) we could afford it. 6G for all is currently planned here to be ready in 2030.

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#2955278 16-Aug-2022 11:13

old3eyes:

Not everyone is as rich as you and buys new phones every year or two. There are lots of old people out there with candy bars and older smart phones and the like that are 3G and maybe 4G but I bet none of them will do VoLTE. Unless the telcos give at least 2 to 3 years notice that 3G will be closed down I would assume the likes of Consumer would be on the case fairly quickly.

No different to when there have been the other network switch offs in the past with old people and old phones and not wanting to spend money.

What is a problem is place selling phones with no 4g or no volte on them new right now. I expect that a CGA case against them is possible for not working as a phone when expected.

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#2955311 16-Aug-2022 12:21

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No different to when there have been the other network switch offs in the past with old people and old phones and not wanting to spend money.

What is a problem is place selling phones with no 4g or no volte on them new right now. I expect that a CGA case against them is possible for not working as a phone when expected.

Why single out "old people"?

how about just 'people with older phones that meet their needs not wanting waste money on new phones.'

Here is a crazy notion, lets give peace a chance.

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#2955322 16-Aug-2022 12:53

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Technology updates are ongoing if I have to buy a VOLTE handset so be it. I can still use whatsapp for text, voice, video calling etc.

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