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Dkeeper

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#197981 21-Jun-2016 09:45

Hi:

I might not be in the correct forum page.. please mention where if I have it wrong.

I am trying to find out the Canadian equivalent frequency to the 4G-Extended rural coverage used on mobile phones/modems/routers to that of our (I think..) 700GHz B28 one here. (hope I have those 2 numbers right)

Looking to sort out a phone & or modem/router for a family member living in rural PEI (Prince Edward Island) Canada. For his beach batch.

I think Rogers (Canada) offer some sort of Rocket Hub that uses 850/1900 & 2100MHz

Rogers offers an Extended Coverage, however in reading that I think they are referring to Roaming and how when outside their coverage area it switches to a Bell or AT&T towers. So I did not take that term as meaning the same as when we in NZ refer to 4G-Extended being Band 28 or 700MHz for better 4G LTE rural connection and transfer speeds.

Also I think Bell Mobility (Canada) use a ZTE-MF275R Turbo Hub on 850/1900MHz (?-2100MHz)

Any comment appreciated.. (even if it's to say move to another forum location, hehe) and thx.

michaelt

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#1577530 21-Jun-2016 09:49

I think the 850/1900 and 2100 might be 3G, not 4G. For 4G have a look at the Canada section here - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_LTE_networks

This one for 3G - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_UMTS_networks

nathan

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#1577554 21-Jun-2016 10:35

It's confusing in North America as the telcos like to using marketing confusion with their customers

Over here they market 4G as what we would call 3.5G and LTE as what we would call 4G

Dkeeper

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#1577589 21-Jun-2016 11:00

Thank you guys for your reply..

So if the 850 / 1900MHz are GSM - 3G, then the 2100Mhz is likely GSM 4G LTE (?) and if so,

do they have a B28 - 700MHz Extended 4G equivalent for better rural connection?

(I get the feeling that Canada might not be using a lot of the latest LTE features, gear and the rural broadband type packages like we have here in NZ from companies like Vodafone & Skinny..)

michaelt

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#1577595 21-Jun-2016 11:09

GSM is actually 2G, not 3G or 4G. I don't think there's any 2100Mhz network in Canada, and the 'Rocket Hub' specs at http://www.rogers.com/web/link/wirelessBuyFlow?forwardTo=PhoneThenPlan&productType=normal&productId_Detailed=MF275RGRY suggest that it doesn't support it either.

Looks like the 3G (UMTS) frequencies are Bands 2, 4 and 5 (1900, 1700 and 850) with Rogers using 2 and 5, and the 4G (LTE) frequencies are Bands 2, 4, 7, 17, 38, 40, 42 (1900, 1700, 2600, 700, 2600, 2300, 3500) with Rogers using 4, 7 and 17. I'm guessing that their rural LTE services use Band 17 700Mhz, which is different to the Band 28 700Mhz in use here.

Dkeeper

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#1577610 21-Jun-2016 11:59

Thanks for that Michaelt.

Well, at least now I see a 700MHz "something", even if it's Band 12 or 17.. and so hopefully that's the real rural stuff.

(was thinking the B12 might be the 700MHz and the B17 might be the 2100MHz, but do not know)

But wow, are Bell and Rogers ever expensive over there.. Not only the modem at $240-299 but the monthly data for 50GB at $110 for either supplier.

(Makes you think how lucky we are with companies like Skinny at $55/for 60GB or Vodafone for their 80GB plan, though I'm still waiting for the 120GB $69 plan.. "he wishes")

michaelt

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#1577612 21-Jun-2016 12:04

B12, B17 and B28 are all called 700Mhz, but they're not compatible. Looks like B17's the only one used in Canada. Just have a look at the Canada section in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_LTE_networks

Or at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LTE_frequency_bands if you want more info on each one

EDIT: Actually, not sure if Bell uses B12 or B17. Looks like it's B17 for Rogers.

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Dkeeper

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#1577736 21-Jun-2016 15:58

Thx for your reply and reference sites. Very helpful.