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I have recently had VDSL put on out our place, as it has just become available.

 

The down speed has increased significantly (~10Mb) however the upstream has dropped by about 300kb.

 

ETP is in a workshop shed approx. 30m from the house. I have replaced the wire from the workshop to the house with cat6 cable, and moved the jackpoint to the workshop.  It comes straight into the workshop from the street and, through a wallplate and short cable, into the modem. From there, everything is data cable to the house etc - so no other jacks, no other junctions (naked, so nothing else required).

 

I've included the line info from the modem below - in another forum I commented that my attenuation was only 6db however I made a mistake with that and was reading the wrong line.

 

Just wondering if there is anything else that I am able to do in the hopes of bringing the speeds up a bit, or of this is the best it's going to be. Fibre won't be coming here any time soon - we're about 300m from even the most optimistic proposed install on the chorus website.

 

Thanks.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edit - inserted image as data wouldn't stay in a table


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  #1726513 26-Feb-2017 13:59
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So only 7Mbps before on ADSL? Line too long for VDSL.

 

 





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  #1726563 26-Feb-2017 15:08
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Yeah 7-8Mbps on ADSL. I fear you might be right - the connection appears stable and the down speed certainly halves the time it takes to download something but the reduction in up speed is a bit of pain.  I guess I'm lucky to be able to get anything - we're probably just over 1500m from the exchange.


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  #1726589 26-Feb-2017 16:34
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Ge0rge:

 

Yeah 7-8Mbps on ADSL. I fear you might be right - the connection appears stable and the down speed certainly halves the time it takes to download something but the reduction in up speed is a bit of pain.  I guess I'm lucky to be able to get anything - we're probably just over 1500m from the exchange.

 

 

As @coffeebaron has noted above, your line length for VDSL is in the 'fringe' range, (around 1-1.5 km). In this range, changing from ADSL to VDSL can vary from reasonble to small increases in both download and upload to no effect and even decreases in speed (especially upload) or anywhere in between. It really is a case by case basis.

 

You're probably better off going back to ADSL as the loss in upload speed, (by almost half!) would lead to more easily saturating the upload bandwidth bringing download to a standstill as well.

 

If you need better speed than the ADSL can give you then it's probably time to start looking for alternative options. Wireless perhaps?




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  #1726601 26-Feb-2017 16:54
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tangerz:

 

 

 

You're probably better off going back to ADSL as the loss in upload speed, (by almost half!) would lead to more easily saturating the upload bandwidth bringing download to a standstill as well.

 

 

 

 

Basically this.

 

I'm surprised you were even connected with such poor stats, however despite getting higher downstream it's likely you'll be significantly impacted by the poor upstream. Moving back to ADSL2+ would be the smart thing to do.

 

 

 

 


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  #1726603 26-Feb-2017 16:58
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Why is VDSL upstream so weak compared to ADSL when they use the same band?

 

 

Is it some output power constraint?

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  #1726607 26-Feb-2017 17:02
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yitz: Why is VDSL upstream so weak compared to ADSL when they use the same band? Is it some output power constraint?

 

They don't use the same band.


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  #1726629 26-Feb-2017 18:48
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Thanks for taking the time to reply. Looks like I'll be giving the ISP a call tomorrow and reverting back to ADSL.  I'm in the shadow of a hill, cell phone reception is very poor so wireless isn't really an option. RBI possibly, but at the cost I don't really need the speed that badly.

 

 

 

Cheers




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  #1726632 26-Feb-2017 18:57
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Move back to ADSL and depending on fixed line / mobile provider grab a Sure Signal unit, Mobile coverage issue fixed

 

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  #1726647 26-Feb-2017 19:51
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Ge0rge:

 

Thanks for taking the time to reply. Looks like I'll be giving the ISP a call tomorrow and reverting back to ADSL.  I'm in the shadow of a hill, cell phone reception is very poor so wireless isn't really an option. RBI possibly, but at the cost I don't really need the speed that badly.

 

 

 

Cheers

 

 

 

 

What area are you in? There are other wireless providers around that don't just resell the RBI (cell tower) product. Many have their own network of towers in different locations to cell towers so there's a possibility you may be in coverage for one of those.

 

Check out:

 

Uber Group:  http://uber.co.nz/

 

Compass:  https://compass.net.nz/

 

Lightwire:  https://www.lightwire.co.nz/

 

Ultimate Broadband:  http://www.ultimatebroadband.co.nz/

 

 

 

Good luck!


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  #1726660 26-Feb-2017 20:27
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yitz: Why is VDSL upstream so weak compared to ADSL when they use the same band? Is it some output power constraint?

 

 

 

While US0 is used often on 8b profiles it is at a lower power level within that portion of the specturm.





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  #1726676 26-Feb-2017 21:23
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When fibre does eventually arrive 300m away, research some of the point to point wireless threads here asa possible solution.

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