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Oblivian

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#306684 13-Aug-2023 16:07
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There's a story running tomorrow that appears to be fair go asking why a seller is flicking off a device that took down 3 cell towers.

Should be an interesting watch :)

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  #3115840 14-Aug-2023 19:51
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Summary:

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'Signalboosters' found on google.
$800
Installed, no change.
Killed 66% traffic degradation
ONE sent an agency looking to shut it down.

Multiple customers.
'device certification'. But not 'certification' from providers. (Duh)

And RSM and DNC can't do anything because offshore.
Tracked to Columbia and oooodles of clones. While sales stories to their 'office' changed each call.



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  #3115843 14-Aug-2023 20:03
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Out of interest how does it degrade the network?


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  #3115845 14-Aug-2023 20:08
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One would presume resends telemetry and throws off mobile hand off.
It reportedly effected 3 towers.

There's a pinned post at the top of this thread area that has some pictorial wave forms.



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  #3115874 14-Aug-2023 20:45
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Oblivian: One would presume resends telemetry and throws off mobile hand off.
It reportedly effected 3 towers.

There's a pinned post at the top of this thread area that has some pictorial wave forms.

 

 

 

I watched it but they didn’t say, I can see people getting them now just to annoy the telcos. One had to drive around like the old tv License vans trying to locate it then walk the street to find it  


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  #3115877 14-Aug-2023 20:57
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Stu1:

Out of interest how does it degrade the network?


They usually just straight out amplify a big chunk of the spectrum with no gain control. Think someone yelling out on a loud speaker at full volume, very hard for anyone else around them to have a conversation.
The approved Cel-Fi repeaters have gain control and can can also be remotely shut down if they are causing interface on the network. E.G. if they fault or someone installs them all wrong.




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  #3115878 14-Aug-2023 20:59
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coffeebaron:
Stu1:

 

Out of interest how does it degrade the network?

 


They usually just straight out amplify a big chunk of the spectrum with no gain control. Think someone yelling out on a loud speaker at full volume, very hard for anyone else around them to have a conversation.
The approved Cel-Fi repeaters have gain control and can can also be remotely shut down if they are causing interface on the network. E.G. if they fault or someone installs them all wrong.

 

Crazy I wonder how many the have sold over the years here 


 
 
 

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  #3115880 14-Aug-2023 21:01
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A fair few, and I've certainly heard plenty of stories of network interference, devices tracked down, confiscation, fines etc.




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  #3115888 14-Aug-2023 21:18
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At the end of that Fair Go segment they recommended turning on wifi calling.

 

I have that for 2d, and I believe OneNZ offer that also, but I dont recall if Spark have that option yet??

 

Edit: I just looked at Himself's phone and it is an option, so thats turned on now.





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  #3115889 14-Aug-2023 21:26
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kiwifidget:

At the end of that Fair Go segment they recommended turning on wifi calling.


I have that for 2d, and I believe OneNZ offer that also, but I dont recall if Spark have that option yet??


Edit: I just looked at Himself's phone and it is an option, so thats turned on now.


2degrees, OneNZ and Spark all have wifi calling :)

Spark however has limited usage to only in NZ, while 2degrees and OneNZ allow usage overseas as well (used to bypass roaming costs for calls and texts)

Spark also doesn't have the ability to text using wifi calling while the others do.

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  #3115912 15-Aug-2023 00:34
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stick:
kiwifidget:

 

At the end of that Fair Go segment they recommended turning on wifi calling.

 

 

 

I have that for 2d, and I believe OneNZ offer that also, but I dont recall if Spark have that option yet??

 

 

 

Edit: I just looked at Himself's phone and it is an option, so thats turned on now.

 


2degrees, OneNZ and Spark all have wifi calling :)

Spark however has limited usage to only in NZ, while 2degrees and OneNZ allow usage overseas as well (used to bypass roaming costs for calls and texts)

Spark also doesn't have the ability to text using wifi calling while the others do.

 

 

 

Without saying anything that will get me in trouble, Spark don't have that functionality on their mobile network YET. It's a very safe bet that Spark will be looking to enable this as a pretty standard feature of a full IMS based mobile network, which I'm sure all providers are more than happy to move their network to in preparation of the end of 3G.





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I have (tucked away and unused) a Vodafone-branded cell network signal booster which someone gave me in ~2015. I imagine it funtions more as a microcell (femtocell?) and the functionality has been superceded by wifi calling. 

 

 

 

Wifi calling has been a lifesaver for my wife, since our house (not in a valley) in Mt Eden (Auckland) has such terrible Vodafone reception it's completely unusable. 


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  #3115944 15-Aug-2023 08:27
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cddt:

 

I have (tucked away and unused) a Vodafone-branded cell network signal booster which someone gave me in ~2015. I imagine it funtions more as a microcell (femtocell?) and the functionality has been superceded by wifi calling. 

 

 

 

 

That will be a sure signal & it's now a paperweight.  https://media.one.nz/news/technology/suresignal 





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its good to finally see information about them coming out. i have for years been tracking down ones that have been causing interference. 99% of people dont understand they needed to get ones that are approved by the operator and the ones they brought were from mobilesignalbooster.co.nz

 

when they go wrong they can cause interference some 20kms away easy ( depending on elevation of tower/ flat ground/water etc. 


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  #3120566 26-Aug-2023 12:21
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Andib:

 

That will be a sure signal & it's now a paperweight.  https://media.one.nz/news/technology/suresignal 

 

 

Thanks for letting me know, to e-waste it is! 


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