nate:Fraktul: While you may be able to run VoIP services over TCNZs UBS network the SLAs of this product definitely do not support VoIP type service flows. Suggesting people run their business primary voice services over UBS without due diligence and without the end user being fully aware of exactly what they are getting is a tad irresponsible Nathan.
I agree with you completely - my point was more that you can run crystal clear VoIP over ADSL.
To clarify further, to keep all bases covered I recommended keeping a couple incoming phone lines/ISDN lines and run outgoing calls through VoIP - this way, in the event of an ADSL outage, customers can still call in, and you can still call out through the physical phone lines until the internet is back up again.
It's really up to the customer as to the balance of lower line charges with VoIP vs keeping backup physical phone lines.
Sorry if my comments were misleading, I'm certainly not trying to lead anyone astray :)
Good to see Nathan, I was sure that was the case. The industry has a vested interest in bringing appropriate solutions to the market, there is a lot of FUD out there.

