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#11308 15-Jan-2007 15:25
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How do operators like VFX and iTalk provide free local calling from VOIP to the PSTN?

I assume they operate VOIP<->PSTN gateways through PRI connections, which they are charged by the minute for all calls including local calls.

Do they absorb this cost via the monthly subscription fees they charge to users, or do they actually get free local calling through Telecom?


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  #57973 15-Jan-2007 19:39
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Local Calls are provided for under something called the Kiwi Share for residential customers i.e free local calling for residential customers, we have agreements with Telecom to take care of this, Connections at a interconnect do not use PRI Rates which are ISDN circuits but are SS7 (C7) links a more enhanced 2Mb circuit connection




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  #57976 15-Jan-2007 20:07
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Is that more or less the equivalent of "peering" in the pstn world?

As an extension of that, I guess these links have to be geographically located in different calling areas to get the KiwiShare enshrined free local calling in various cities, as well as local DDI numbers? Is that why it took a while for ChCh DDI numbers to become available? Or are there other reasons?

 
 
 
 


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  #57987 15-Jan-2007 21:49
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On a related issue Phil - is the VFX service going to offer free local calling for customers wanting to use it now (and in the future) for business purposes?


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  #58005 16-Jan-2007 06:27
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lduncan: Is that more or less the equivalent of "peering" in the pstn world?

As an extension of that, I guess these links have to be geographically located in different calling areas to get the KiwiShare enshrined free local calling in various cities, as well as local DDI numbers? Is that why it took a while for ChCh DDI numbers to become available? Or are there other reasons?


Yes that is correct, you must have a what is called a Local Interconnect point for each Region to offer local calling, ie you can not offer local calling in Christchurch if you only have a Local Interconnect in Auckland.




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  #58006 16-Jan-2007 06:36
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sbiddle: On a related issue Phil - is the VFX service going to offer free local calling for customers wanting to use it now (and in the future) for business purposes?



This is most likely going to depend on hardware, ie if you have a single SPA2102 in a location then it will be classed as a Residential, but if you have a SPA9000 or multiple SPA2102's in the same location then it will be business and local calls would be charged.




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  #58011 16-Jan-2007 08:54
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maverick:
This is most likely going to depend on hardware, ie if you have a single SPA2102 in a location then it will be classed as a Residential, but if you have a SPA9000 or multiple SPA2102's in the same location then it will be business and local calls would be charged.


It is possible to have some sort of business model that differs from the usual Telecom and TCL business call rates? How about an option of capped local call rates, ie maybe 10c untimed local calls? As I understand it you're still passing calls for free as the TSO requires whether the customer is a business or residential customer?



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  #58012 16-Jan-2007 08:57
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I would have thought that technically that would be in violation of any interconnect agreement Telecom would make?

 
 
 
 


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  #58013 16-Jan-2007 09:00
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sbiddle:
maverick:
This is most likely going to depend on hardware, ie if you have a single SPA2102 in a location then it will be classed as a Residential, but if you have a SPA9000 or multiple SPA2102's in the same location then it will be business and local calls would be charged.


It is possible to have some sort of business model that differs from the usual Telecom and TCL business call rates? How about an option of capped local call rates, ie maybe 10c untimed local calls? As I understand it you're still passing calls for free as the TSO requires whether the customer is a business or residential customer?





Generally this will be decided by the Sales director and his team so I don't really have an answer on this, he is however pretty constructive on all our pricing models as can be seen by our rates for all of our services and products...so you never know but when it comes to pricing and sales/ marketing I leave that to the experts




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