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soulflyfgm

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Topic # 13117 23-Apr-2007 14:16

Hi everyone..i was using yahoo talk to make calls to El salvador, which is located in central america.. i dont want to use yahoo anymore because they increased their prices...i think im gonna start using http://www.[domainremoved].com/en/rates.html...

Does anybody here knows which is the best voip company to make calls from pc to landline to el salvador?

Thank you so much

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Reply # 68160 23-Apr-2007 14:19

Welcome to Geekzone. Have you tried Skype?

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soulflyfgm

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Reply # 68161 23-Apr-2007 14:21

yes at first i used skype..but then i started using yahoo talk because it had cheaper rates..now skype and yahoo have so expensive rates....
thank you for responding so quick.

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Reply # 68191 23-Apr-2007 17:36

a Google search on the internet will find literally 100's of cheap voip calls to landlines. Have a look at lowratevoip here http://www.lowratevoip.com/en/rates.html Their rate is about 8c per minute to El Salvador landlines. cheers George

soulflyfgm

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Reply # 68326 24-Apr-2007 16:17

8cents is not bad...im gonna try it and see if its good. Thank you George

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Reply # 68387 25-Apr-2007 01:10

The cheapest VoIP provider in the world is Betamax. They run more than a dozen brands offering VoIP service.

Except from justvoip.com they all use the SIP-protocol and so you can use their service with any SIP-software/device. Anyway you'll need to install their VoIP client for registering an account, afterwards you can uninstall it again.

All those Betamax brands offer absolutely free calls to NZ landlines and many other countries. The only condition is, that you'll charge a credit of € 12.50 on your account. Those € 12.50 can than be used for calls to networks/countries, that are not free (e.g. mobile networks). Also this credit will never expire.
The other thing is, that those free locations are only free for a number of so-called "freedays". With every charging of your account you'll receive a number of freedays, which varies between 30-120 days, depending on the brand. But even if your freedays have expired, you'll still have very cheap "normal rates".
So the freedays are your reward for charging credit and so becoming a paying customer.

From my experience you'll never run out of freedays, as you'll also place some calls to costing destinations and so recharge before 120 days again. Btw. you can also send SMS worldwide for only € 0.05 through those brands.

As poivy.com has the most free destinations and grants 120 freedays per charging, I regard it as most attractive.

For a tarif comparsion of all those Betamax brands have a look at http://www.backsla.sh/betamax.

I'm using Betamax brands for 2.5 years now and it works great.

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Reply # 68396 25-Apr-2007 08:07

Hi, has the price changed from €10 to €12.50 or does that include Vat tax?
(VAT not payable in New Zealand)
cheers George

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Reply # 68400 25-Apr-2007 09:16

The total of € 12.50 includes tax (€ 1,90) and a service fee (€ 0.60), so it's stil € 10 net and € 12,50 gross. The VAT is charged to all customers, no matter in which country you are.

Btw you can even make most of the named services sending a CallerID of your landline or mobile phone - you just need to verify your number by a free (incoming) verification call or by SMS.

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Reply # 68443 25-Apr-2007 15:51

the reason I asked about the VAT is that when I pay through paypal the €10 cost NZ$18 80c on my credit card.
(rhe latest was last week). Note this has no resellers add on's or VAT it is just the exchange rate conversion and a small Bank fee. I think VAT is only charged to EU country members.
cheers George

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Reply # 68484 25-Apr-2007 23:08

You're absolutely right. I just checked a friend's invoice, who is living in NZ. And he was acutally charged € 10.50 only, allthough I'm sure he mentioned € 12.50, when I guided his first charging by phone.

I should re-register with Betamax and provide an address outside the EU. ;-)

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Reply # 69562 4-May-2007 23:07

i have a solution for you mate. i sell voip credit. i am a reseller.. what i can offer you is.. if you buy 10euros, you can get 300 minutes free every week for 120days! thats about an hour worth of calling for 5days.. if u want to talk more 1cent per minute.. cheap ha? and.. if you dont use ur credit by the end of 120days you can use it make calls, 1 cent per minutes... to get this sweet deal get in touch with me..

[Moderator edit (MF): removed telephone number, please use PM]

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Reply # 69572 5-May-2007 08:54

Hi quadiator , I saw your post last night but when I come back this morning it is gone!! not sure why... could be a system error or you mentioning you were a Betamx reseller which may have not have been in accordance with the Geekzone rules? Can you post it again or modily it a bit? cheers George

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Reply # 69579 5-May-2007 09:43

GEOMAX, I restored his post, without the phone number now and asked to use PM.

Soliciting services and products is quite something in anyone's first post. It's blatant advertising and we don't like it here. Also, could you trust your hard earned money to someone such as quadiator who can't write in a forum without using SMS speak instead of plain English?

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Reply # 69585 5-May-2007 10:24

Hi freitasm,
thanks for the reply...I was a bit bleary eyed last night......
I agree with conforming to rules, but I think that if I did not deal with people who communicate with SMS speak or anything other than plain english I would end up not dealing with many people at all. cheers George

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Reply # 69587 5-May-2007 11:15

But each situation requires different behaviour. It's ok to use SMS language in the SMS. But in the forums where there are plenty of space and time?

Also, if that person is writing like that, what guarantees you have it's not a 15 year old trying to make an easy money? Remember, we have no credentials and no references...

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Reply # 69603 5-May-2007 14:24

I think each situations needs the user to be able to express themselves to the best of their ability. The English language is continually evolving and I have no doubt the SMS users of today will be running the world tomorrow. You only need to look through these forums to se geek talk everywhere which is evolution in the making. As to buying anything based on how they express themselves.....I buy things from people who are struggling with the English language as it is foreign to them but they seem to express themselves in various ways which i eventually understand. I think you should loosen up the rules and be more tolerant to these evolving changes. cheers George ..

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