Nokia e65 and and voip over wifi

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Gasser

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Topic # 16323 4-Oct-2007 14:55

Hi,
Has anyone had any experience with this combination. I'm thinking ogf getting an e65 - to be frank I didn't think much about voip previously but want to experiment with it. Some of my clients who travel a lot could certainly benefit - (and it would dissuade them away from the evil blackberry and its middleware mountain).
Anyway I have read that some operators who supply handsets (vodafone might be one) have disabled the functionality to use a voip client (and i was thinking of Truphone) in some handsets. I doubt that I woul get a straight answer from Vodafone - if I could find someone who understood the question.
Can anyone hereshed some light or tell me their experience? I would hate to part with 0.5k only to find it's been crippled..

tia

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Reply # 89496 4-Oct-2007 15:03

Sorry - Found the search function after posting the topic ..duh. Anyway still interested in comments if things have changed or been updated.

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Reply # 89501 4-Oct-2007 15:37

I have an E65 and use the VoIP on it every day if you've got any further questions.

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Reply # 89520 4-Oct-2007 17:38

I use an N95 and use Truphone on it. I have found Truphone to be quite reliable and easy to use, due to its more integrated software client. You can also use other VOIP providers with the standard built in SIP client, but they can be a bit hit n miss setup wise and not so NAT friendly. Wifi is great, but the draw backs are battery life, especially if you are not close to the wifi transmitter.

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Reply # 89521 4-Oct-2007 17:43

Great!

My first question is 'Did you buy a Vodafone branded phone in NZ?'. I read somewhere that that in the UK they were crippled but the Oz ones were OK.

If the vodafone mobiles are crippled is it voip over wifi or voip over GSM that doesn't work - or both? It seems that the carriers have more to lose with voip over wifi as they don't have an opportunity to 'clip the ticket'.

I anticipate that if I can get it working most of my voip use would be wifi. It's a subjective question but what is the experience like. Assuming a 'hi-speed' ADSL connection at both ends. Is it 'novelty quality' like 3G video calling , or can you really use it day to day?

Thanks for your guidance.

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Reply # 89522 4-Oct-2007 17:52

My N95 is a NZ Voda handset and VOIP is not crippled. Not sure about the E65, but I don't believe VFNZ cripple VOIP on these, so you should be fine. VOIP works fine on WIFI, with a good broadband connection (and close to WIFI transmitter). Across 3G, you will get mixed results, but does work if the conditions are good. A few people have been trying out http://www.2talk.co.nz/ so that may be another option for a VOIP provider. Xnet's VFX service would be good, but is not compatible with E65 or other BYOD hardware at this stage.

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Reply # 89524 4-Oct-2007 17:59

Vodafone NZ haven't crippled either their E65's or N95's like Vodafone UK did. Both handsets have the VoIP client which can connect via WiFi or 3G.

Call quality of WiFi is perfect within reason - you need a good signal (The E65 isn't great at picking up weak signals) and if you've got heavy WiFi traffic then having WMM enabled on your router to prioritise VoIP traffic would be of use.

I have my E65 connected to my Asterisk PBX at home, when I walk in the door my phone registers and basically becomes a cordless phone from my home line. If I'm at work I can connect to my home Asterisk system and make and receive calls as if I was at home. Providing you have a good broadband connection the call quality is identical to a regular phoneline.

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Reply # 89786 6-Oct-2007 09:14

Thanks for your help so far!

I picked up the e65 yesterday.

I have set up Truphone, but have had to disable the firewall on my router at home to get VOIP to work - can anyone point me in the direction of what ports I need to open so I can tighten the firewall again. Is that the right way to do it anyway? The router is a 3com:

OfficeConnect ADSL Wireless 11g Firewall Router

3C number	3CRWDR101A-75
Software version	1.00.00 (USA) (Apr 21 2006 19:10:53)
Boot loader version	0.70.1
Wireless version	N.A.
ADSL modem version	05.00.03.00A
Hardware version	01
Serial number This router lets you select firewall levels from disabled - low - medium - high. I would like to set it back to 'high' and only open the requisite ports. Is the roundtrip delay on Truphone I have seen typical - I guess there is a lot of latency involved? Not the right forum, but the topic is relevant. The e65 has TINY fonts. I'm an old fart and struggle to read thescreen without reading glasses - just a heads up for anyone considering the phone - it's a pity cos' that is the only failing that I see which would put off middle age business men - presumably it's target market off the phone. Sorry for the stereotyping obvious in the last sentence! Thanks again.

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Reply # 90548 10-Oct-2007 21:08

Hi Gasser,

Would you be able to summarise the settings needed to connect to a SIP service using the E65 for me. My son has an E65 and I have been trying to get him connected to my Asterisk box for a while now, but the settings on that handset seem to want more information than I know about.

So, a summary would be very helpful.

Cheers Mike

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Reply # 90551 10-Oct-2007 21:21

Gasser:
Not the right forum, but the topic is relevant. The e65 has TINY fonts. I'm an old fart and struggle to read thescreen without reading glasses - just a heads up for anyone considering the phone - it's a pity cos' that is the only failing that I see which would put off middle age business men - presumably it's target market off the phone. Sorry for the stereotyping obvious in the last sentence!

Just caught this, you've probably sorted it by now but just in case you haven't:

You can change the Font size in Tools, Settings, General, Personalisation, Display.

If the largest font is too small then Psiloc (google 'em) has a font magnifier program, or Darla Mack's Blog (google again) has instructions for how to install your own fonts.

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Reply # 90556 10-Oct-2007 21:51

mruane: Hi Gasser,

Would you be able to summarise the settings needed to connect to a SIP service using the E65 for me. My son has an E65 and I have been trying to get him connected to my Asterisk box for a while now, but the settings on that handset seem to want more information than I know about.

So, a summary would be very helpful.

Cheers Mike

Profile name: Profile    <- Whatever you want to call your profile
Service profile: IETF
Default access point: Your default AP from list
Public user name: sip:user@host.com   <- Your extension ie 200@myserver.com
Use compression: No
Registration: Always on
Use security: No

Proxy Server
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Proxy Server sip:host.com   <- Your Asterisk server hostname or FQDN if trying to access externally
Realm: asterisk
User name: user    <- SIP user/extension
Password: password <- SIP pextension password
Allow loose routing: Yes
Transport type: UDP
Port: 5060

Registrar Server
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Proxy Server sip:host.com   <- Your Asterisk server hostname or FQDN if trying to access externally
Realm: asterisk
User name: user    <- SIP user/extension
Password: password <- SIP pextension password
Allow loose routing: Yes
Transport type: UDP
Port: 5060

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Reply # 90637 11-Oct-2007 13:12

Thanks sbiddle, your a gent!

Cheers Mike

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Reply # 90644 11-Oct-2007 13:58

To Mruane:
I'm glad sbiddle helped you out - I wouldn't have had a clue!

To NZTechFreak:
Can you confirm that you have done that on an e65? The menu structure is different on my phone and your signature picture thingy has a different phone (N70??)

Yes I have looked at PSIlok and I might try it, the font magnifier bundled with the phone (not Nuance Zoom as indicated in the manual BTW) gave the fonts an awful case of the jaggies!

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Reply # 90647 11-Oct-2007 14:18

Just to add to that the Registration: Always on will make the phone connect to the AP automatically when it range. You can set this to Off if you want to just manually connect to the AP. I have my internet tel menu as a shortcut on the front of my phone, this brings up a list of AP's in range and allows you to manually conect to one.

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Reply # 90690 11-Oct-2007 17:20

Gasser:
I have set up Truphone, but have had to disable the firewall on my router at home to get VOIP to work - can anyone point me in the direction of what ports I need to open so I can tighten the firewall again. Is that the right way to do it anyway? The router is a 3com:

Not familiar with the 3COM setup details, but the port(s) you probably need to open are 5060, 5061, 5062 - these are the most common, and my Truphone has set it self up to use 5062.

As for lag/latency. This is true for any overseas VOIP provider, it's just a case of getting use to it / vs cost / vs choice of providers / vs who you actually want to call.

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