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Topic # 175802 12-Jul-2015 15:13
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Hi I have purchased a couple of Gigaset C530AIP phones. My wish was to go with Skype but as they Gigaset, don't use SIP protocol I was advised by Skype Help desk to go to my Internet provider which is Snap Internet. Snap help desk said I need a Fritzbox. After spending $250 per phone I dont want to spend another $300 on a new modem. My first preference would be to go with Skype. My monthly calls will not be great and with Gigaset to Gigaset free service and with my family scattered throughout New Zealand and Australia would allow us all to regularly keep in contact with free calls. Can any one confirm I have been given the correct advice by both Skype and Snap. My next option would be a pre pay subscription with a Sip provider. This would give me a number which would then let me call my family, or them call me, Gigaset to Gigaset again at no cost. If this is the way to go, any advice as to a suitable provider would be appreciated.

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  Reply # 1341637 12-Jul-2015 16:29
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After rereading your post numerous times I'm totally confused.








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  Reply # 1341700 12-Jul-2015 17:53
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Don't use Skype myself much at all. Do Skype support a standard SIP account?
The gigaset phones you have can only do SIP accounts.
Snap's voice service is a managed one that they will deliver to you via a Fritz box. They won't give you the SIP details to register to a random device.
Your options are get your family to buy gigaset phones too (I wouldn't waste money on the 'C' series and just buy the cheaper A510IP sets) and use the the gigaset account for free calling. Or sign up for a 2talk account and and register that to your phones. If you choose a package that comes with national minutes you will be good to go.

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  Reply # 1341712 12-Jul-2015 18:27
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The Gigaset phone is a SIP phone. Skype does not use SIP and it's not compatible with Skype.

If you want to use Skype phone you'll have to purchase one that is compatible with Skype. I'm not sure what the current status is with these, most of the vendors who did have such products have now dumped them. I know Dualphone still make one.



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  Reply # 1341741 12-Jul-2015 19:31
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Too risky to make one with people blaming manufacturers when changes to third party services render hardware no longer able to do what it once was.




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  Reply # 1341763 12-Jul-2015 20:02
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Just got with 2Talk. I have them through a Linksys ATA.  2Talk do a call voice conf feature as well which you could use for family calls.
Its quite reasonable and works reliably.



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  Reply # 1341766 12-Jul-2015 20:11
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chevrolux: Don't use Skype myself much at all. Do Skype support a standard SIP account?
The gigaset phones you have can only do SIP accounts.
Snap's voice service is a managed one that they will deliver to you via a Fritz box. They won't give you the SIP details to register to a random device.
Your options are get your family to buy gigaset phones too (I wouldn't waste money on the 'C' series and just buy the cheaper A510IP sets) and use the the gigaset account for free calling. Or sign up for a 2talk account and and register that to your phones. If you choose a package that comes with national minutes you will be good to go.

yes I intend buying them all Gigasets. Snap say I need a fritz box as well. Do I just register sets with Gigaset and talk or do I need a 2Talk or other account as well? 
 

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  Reply # 1341769 12-Jul-2015 20:24
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lemuzz:
chevrolux: Don't use Skype myself much at all. Do Skype support a standard SIP account?
The gigaset phones you have can only do SIP accounts.
Snap's voice service is a managed one that they will deliver to you via a Fritz box. They won't give you the SIP details to register to a random device.
Your options are get your family to buy gigaset phones too (I wouldn't waste money on the 'C' series and just buy the cheaper A510IP sets) and use the the gigaset account for free calling. Or sign up for a 2talk account and and register that to your phones. If you choose a package that comes with national minutes you will be good to go.

yes I intend buying them all Gigasets. Snap say I need a fritz box as well. Do I just register sets with Gigaset and talk or do I need a 2Talk or other account as well? 
 

If everyone you want to call have Gigasets you don't need anything else. No Fritzbox, 2talk, Skype, etc needed.



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  Reply # 1341969 13-Jul-2015 09:52
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Thanks That is exactly what I wanted to know Thanks for your help

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  Reply # 1342018 13-Jul-2015 11:01
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You can get Skype on SIP phones via Skype Connect. It's expensive for what it is though.

If you just want to call Gigaset to Gigaset, you don't need anything other than an internet connection. Buying $200-$300 phones just for this though is kind of an expensive way to go about it compared to an unlimited dialling plan or a best mate-type option.

If you want to use your Gigaset to make calls to non-Gigaset handsets, you will need to sign up for a SIP account (or use it with an old style landline). 2talk is probably best in NZ for this - cheap, reliable and good instructions on how to set it up with your Gigaset. They have both pay as you go and subscription options.

There are a lot of overseas SIP providers too if you want a "local" international number (e.g. a UK number that will make your phone in NZ ring without the toll costs for the person dialling).

You can actually do some really cool stuff with SIP (and VOIP more generally). A few years back it was a no-brainer in terms of the cost (compared to a $40 per month landline), but in the retail/home user space the cost/benefit equation is shifting. Landline packages are getting cheaper, you can get local numbers on your mobile, and both have unlimited calling. Particularly if you're going to be the one supporting all these handsets when the family members inevitably break something.

I was looking at setting my mother up on a VOIP package - $10 a month for everything she needs. But Vodafone offers more or less the same thing (on top of an internet package) for $20 a month. And for the latter it's pretty much stick that cable in that socket and it goes. If it doesn't, it's Vodafone's problem. The VOIP option just wasn't worth my trouble.

Bit different in the business space though.



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  Reply # 1342070 13-Jul-2015 11:50
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Yes I know they are expensive phones. But As a birthday gift, that minimises the cost somewhat. Also one member in Australia only has a mobile, and landline to mobile is expensive. I was on a Spark plan which gave me free calls to another in Perth but Chorus by way of their recent line charges, made the decision for me to change Telco to Snap which dont have free Aussie calls. So even one call to each of these kids per week will recover the cost of the phones fairly quickly. But thanks for your help.

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