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#198083 25-Jun-2016 17:44
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I'd previously joked the pap2t to a port the chorus techniqician ran to the etp. I was able to get dial tone on a nine plugged into one of the many jacks around the house. But an outgoing call wouldn't work. Incoming however would.

So I thought I'd try it again, but I plugged the pap2t just directly into a regular jack then a phone into another jack. This seemed to work both ways.

So I tried with the Etp connection again. Same as I'd first experienced - incoming only. Then move to the 2nd scenario again. Same jacks, same phone - also only allowed incoming only....nothing would work until I plugged my phone directly into the pap2t.

What could affect this? I know I have one phone line that has just been cut (and not terminated - in a jack or anything, it's just a loose cut). Could that cause this out of problem, or is there some rx/tx wire mismatch happinening somewhere?





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  #1580283 25-Jun-2016 18:52
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As long is the internal wiring is disconnected from the Chorus network at the ETP, there's no issue with back feeding it from an ATA port. Depending on the ATA you can most likely have several phones connected.

 

Incoming or outgoing calls failing is likely to be unrelated though - more likely a config issue on the ATA.


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  #1580302 25-Jun-2016 19:24
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RunningMan:

As long is the internal wiring is disconnected from the Chorus network at the ETP, there's no issue with back feeding it from an ATA port. Depending on the ATA you can most likely have several phones connected.


Incoming or outgoing calls failing is likely to be unrelated though - more likely a config issue on the ATA.



Any idea then why when on the house wiring only incoming works, but with a (dect) phone directly attached to the pap2t it's ok?

Some with on hook or line state? That the wiring affects? What would I look at?




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  #1580336 25-Jun-2016 21:21
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Are there any capacitors in any of your Phone sockets?





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  #1580339 25-Jun-2016 21:26
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cisconz:

Are there any capacitors in any of your Phone sockets?



NFI. 80s Reno here, they've put a phone jack in most rooms, including the master bathroom midway up the wall next to the toilet.

Is that something I'd look for? If I find them, what then?




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  #1580417 26-Jun-2016 09:01
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I'd suspect a fault in the internal wiring - pull all the jacks off the wall, ringer capacitors can generally be cut off as almost every phone now is only 2 wire. Also, unplug all the phones, and try them one by one. There will be something that is preventing the ATA going off hook properly when you pick up the phone.

 

 


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  #1580511 26-Jun-2016 14:46
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So I've been round all the jacks today.  There are 7.  Was 8, but I removed one to an external building.

 

3 of them have capacitors.  Can these just be cut off and left empty?  Or when I cut them off do I have to bridge where the capacitor was.

 

There are no phones in my house curently, I have one pap2t connected to ethernet with one phone attached to it.  All the old jacks are currently unused.

 

 





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  #1580706 26-Jun-2016 21:55
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Just cut them out. To confirm, remove those 3 and test with connecting into the others, if they are all good, then we found the issue :)





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  #1581523 27-Jun-2016 20:57
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I cut out the capacitors and then tried, it seemed to work.




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  #1581582 27-Jun-2016 22:24
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If the Jacks with capacitors were marked with a "2" the capacitors are a red herring. They connect one leg of the line to the ringer terminal of a 3 wire phone. On their own or with 2 wire phones the caps are just hanging there with one leg isolated.

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