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# 20335 22-Mar-2008 01:30
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Hey,

Dose anyone know were i can get a virtual number for a biz?

Say people ring me on etc 03 5451234, can it be pointed to my cellphone?

All without having a landline... like skype in

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  # 117994 22-Mar-2008 08:18
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I think you want a customer link product from telecom

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  # 117995 22-Mar-2008 08:43
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Or cheaper and more powerful/flexible, a VoIP line from VFX. Just create it, and use the web interface to divert it anywhere you want, anytime.







 
 
 
 


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  # 117998 22-Mar-2008 08:57
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CustomerLink can't be forwarded to mobiles.

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# 117999 22-Mar-2008 09:08
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Or you can get a 2talk.co.nz number (028) and have it permanently redirected to your mobile. The redirection is free for the user, and people calling will pay mobile rates - which they would pay anyway if calling your mobile phone.




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  # 118076 22-Mar-2008 17:54
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The 028 is a range 2Talk has had to use to adhere to the NAD - numbers aren't supposed to be given out if that customer isn't geographically located in that area.

Bring on the VoIP only number range which won't have this restriction - and warn the poor 111 dispatchers that the number will no longer match the address.

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  # 118083 22-Mar-2008 19:12
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freitasm: I didn't understand your last comment, Anyone can get a 028 number - it's like a mobile number, not linked to any region specifically.


Under the NAD numbers are not supposed to be issued unless you reside in that LCA. This means for example that you should not be able to sign up for a 09 number if you reside in Wellington. iTalk have argueably breached the NAD right from launch by firstly allowing anybody in NZ to firstly have an 09 number and then when they did introduce additional area codes they let users take any number that they fancied. MyNetFone and Skype are also guilty of this by letting you have any number of your choice.

VFX have only let you have a number in your LCA and tie this back to an address. They won't let you have an 09 number in Wellington. Vodafone will chop your At Home service off if you move the device from the area in which it is supposed to be used. 

2talk chose 028 because it is a non geographical number range, people seem to associate 02x numbers as mobile when they are simply infact simply a non geographical CPP range. Allocating 028 numbers lets you take your number with you anywhere in NZ, the biggest arguement at present however is that 028 shouldn't be receiving the same mobile termination rates as mobile carriers. This is an issue Ofcom in the UK had to deal with several years ago when VoIP providers started using CPP area codes.

 
 
 
 


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  # 118085 22-Mar-2008 19:33
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If you point a local number at a mobile you will be paying call diversion fees... You can get a call divert from any provider that provides a local number.

So the reason you should get an 028 number is that you can take it anywhere and let the caller pay the price of whatever service you decide to forward it to. Disadvantage is that anyone who wants to call you as a free local call to a VoIP phone instead of a mobile will be out of luck — and probably will never call you. Telecom (and everybody else) will charge the standard termination price for calling 02xx numbers. The closest to a local VoIP-only non-geographic number would be the 0867 numbers used for dialup access, and you wont get one of those. Not yet anyway.

And yes, the poor 111 operators have systems that probably arent designed for callers from 08xx non-geographic phones. From the perspective of emergency services its similar to a mobile but not as easy to find the owner of the phone number. The 08xx number range is currently only used to divert calls to land-lines, not used for outbound calls. You should not plan for VoIP being your only option to make emergency calls anyway, even with good battery backup and some kind of redundancy on your connection to make it more reliable. Keep a spare battery for your mobile!!




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  # 118119 22-Mar-2008 21:49
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sbiddle: 2talk chose 028 because it is a non geographical number range, people seem to associate 02x numbers as mobile when they are simply infact simply a non geographical CPP range. Allocating 028 numbers lets you take your number with you anywhere in NZ, the biggest arguement at present however is that 028 shouldn't be receiving the same mobile termination rates as mobile carriers.


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Yes, I know that. My comment was because nate's post wasn't really related to the topic - the OP didn't ask for a number in certain location, only a number that could be forwarded, and 028 is good because it will cost nothing and allow free forward.




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  # 118120 22-Mar-2008 21:50
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webwat: So the reason you should get an 028 number is that you can take it anywhere and let the caller pay the price of whatever service you decide to forward it to. Disadvantage is that anyone who wants to call you as a free local call to a VoIP phone instead of a mobile will be out of luck — and probably will never call you.


Well, same if you get an Auckland number and someone from Wellington needs to call you. I don't think these days having an 02x number reduces the chance of being called. I actually receive most of my calls on my mobile number...




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  # 118137 23-Mar-2008 01:11
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freitasm: Yes, I know that. My comment was because nate's post wasn't really related to the topic - the OP didn't ask for a number in certain location, only a number that could be forwarded, and 028 is good because it will cost nothing and allow free forward.


Sorry Mauricio, reading back through the original post I was going off-topic.  Was only trying to inform why 2Talk has the 028 range which is very similar to the 021/027/029 range normally reserved for mobiles. Thanks Steve for filling out my poor explanation.

I'd second Tony's suggestion, we often do this for clients who want to get their business stationery and cards printed quickly - it also works well if you ever want to put some VoIP hardware behind your numbers.

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  # 118226 23-Mar-2008 14:09
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Just get an iTalk number from Slingshot and forward it to your mobile from a softphone. Set and forget. Then all you need to do is pay the bill each month.

Slingshot, unline VFX, will give you a number anywhere you want. This is possibly a breach of the NAD however to date no action has been taken against Slingshot (That I am aware of) for this and the practice continues despite the potential breach being brought to the attention of the NAD Management Committee (By WxC I think).



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  # 118300 24-Mar-2008 01:32
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thanks for all your replys 2talk has done the job for me!

Only problem i have their now is getting it to forward to an international number if i dont pick up (usa) toll free)

So yea lol some ideas would be great!

Sam

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  # 118368 24-Mar-2008 13:43
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samcamfilms: Only problem i have their now is getting it to forward to an international number if i dont pick up (usa) toll free)


Don't some USA toll-free numbers block international calling?

If so, find a normal USA number for them, top up your account, and send all calls that way. You're only looking at 5 cents a minute.

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  # 118369 24-Mar-2008 13:53
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samcamfilms: Only problem i have their now is getting it to forward to an international number if i dont pick up (usa) toll free

So yea lol some ideas would be great!

Sam


http://blog.2talk.co.nz/?page_id=20 says the call diversion is free. Or are you tryingto divert to an 1-800 number in the USA (not very clear by your sentence)?




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