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#2759814 13-Aug-2021 20:35

quickymart:

I'm guessing yours hasn't updated yet. Mine looked fine on Wednesday, God-awful craptacular today.

Dunno how Mozilla thinks this is an "improvement" when it's anything but. How is this making it better?

I updated to v91 before I made the post. I don't really see much difference. I use Chrome mostly, but I often have 2 or 3 web browsers open at work and Firefox is my #2. v91 doesn't seem much different to me.

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#2759883 13-Aug-2021 22:44

toejam316:

https://github.com/black7375/Firefox-UI-Fix might be of interest to those of you who abhor the new UI.

Hopefully at some point this will be included as an option in a future version.

That's an improvement, thanks. I've installed that now and it's looking a lot better. Cheers.

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#2759888 14-Aug-2021 08:00

I dumped Firefox some time back and use Edge on my Mac and Windows machines. I use Safari time to time to keep up with updates and use Safari on my iPad Pro and iPhone. To me Firefox the one time goto browser that time left behind.

Here is a crazy notion, lets give peace a chance.

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#2760009 14-Aug-2021 16:07

Seems like everyone is after some specific ‘thing’ that isn’t quite ‘right’ in latest.

But for anyone just using it stock for straightforward browsing, theres nothing wrong with FF (unless something actually is broke and it hasn’t been pointed out yet).

There are mods out there, as posted on this thread, if you need to change something. As for Chrome or Edge or Safari design being better, thats always going to be a subjective topic when discussed.

I used to mod FF to my liking but as time went on and updates came out it just caused more hassle when things broke due to some old config or change I did ages ago.

Practically though, I stick with FF because it’s the only browser with actual NoScript support. I only use Chrome if specific sites only support ‘Chrome’ standards which for whatever reason break on other browsers.

All in all, it’s a modern browser. I can do tabs, multi windows, find my downloads, browse content etc. No significant reason to call it outdated when it really isn’t. Like someone else said, aside from FF and others working on web standards everyone would be going by Google’s playbook.

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#2760016 14-Aug-2021 17:03

I don't use FF very much but on my Win 11 system I use Firefox Developer currently version 92.0b3 Seems to run OK.

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#2760105 14-Aug-2021 22:34

Too me a while to get used to the new stuff but I don't mind it too much now. Might be the theme I'm using but the current tab is pretty obvious (lighter shade and the only tab with that particular shade).

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#2760133 15-Aug-2021 07:23

KiwiSurfer:

Might be the theme I'm using but the current tab is pretty obvious (lighter shade and the only tab with that particular shade).

There isn't much contrast with the default theme, at least not on my poorly calibrated business-range monitor. There are two issues I see. First, the tabs are a little bigger than they need to be, wasting screen space that would be better used for displaying Webpages. The second issue probably depends on how you use the browser. If you have lots of tabs open, one is obviously different and therefore the active tab. If you only have two open, the inactive tab is the one that appears flush with rest of the interface. This is the opposite of how tabs have traditionally appeared and gives the impression that the inactive tab is actually the active one.

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#2851106 15-Jan-2022 11:55

Another update overnight, oh yay. Hello again, floating tabs. Not that I missed you when you left, but it looks like you've made your unwelcome presence known again, sigh.

https://github.com/black7375/Firefox-UI-Fix >> I went here again but there's a lot of files here and I'm not 100% sure what I should be downloading/installing. Can someone please point me in the right direction?

Having said that, everything else mostly looks okay, but that floating tabs bs is horrible. I dunno why they keep forcing it on people.

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#2851108 15-Jan-2022 12:08

quickymart:

Another update overnight, oh yay. Hello again, floating tabs. Not that I missed you when you left, but it looks like you've made your unwelcome presence known again, sigh.

https://github.com/black7375/Firefox-UI-Fix >> I went here again but there's a lot of files here and I'm not 100% sure what I should be downloading/installing. Can someone please point me in the right direction?

Having said that, everything else mostly looks okay, but that floating tabs bs is horrible. I dunno why they keep forcing it on people.

There seems to be some other options here you may want to look into:

https://superuser.com/questions/1653533/how-to-switch-back-to-firefox-old-style-of-tabs

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#2851116 15-Jan-2022 12:38

KiwiSurfer:

quickymart:

Another update overnight, oh yay. Hello again, floating tabs. Not that I missed you when you left, but it looks like you've made your unwelcome presence known again, sigh.

https://github.com/black7375/Firefox-UI-Fix >> I went here again but there's a lot of files here and I'm not 100% sure what I should be downloading/installing. Can someone please point me in the right direction?

Having said that, everything else mostly looks okay, but that floating tabs bs is horrible. I dunno why they keep forcing it on people.

There seems to be some other options here you may want to look into:

https://superuser.com/questions/1653533/how-to-switch-back-to-firefox-old-style-of-tabs

Thanks so much, I think that's probably sorted it. The colouring isn't quite the same as before, but it definitely is clear it's a separate tab etc, so I think this will do for now.

Pain in the neck when they add more "features"...if it ain't broke...!

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#2851125 15-Jan-2022 13:18

SirHumphreyAppleby:

KiwiSurfer:

Might be the theme I'm using but the current tab is pretty obvious (lighter shade and the only tab with that particular shade).

There isn't much contrast with the default theme, at least not on my poorly calibrated business-range monitor. There are two issues I see. First, the tabs are a little bigger than they need to be, wasting screen space that would be better used for displaying Webpages. The second issue probably depends on how you use the browser. If you have lots of tabs open, one is obviously different and therefore the active tab. If you only have two open, the inactive tab is the one that appears flush with rest of the interface. This is the opposite of how tabs have traditionally appeared and gives the impression that the inactive tab is actually the active one.

Out of interest what do the two-tone grey products look like as you browse through the pages on these websites? You should be able to see them in their entirety and not with sections faded out

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Does it make any difference if you view the screen from an angle with the monitor tilted back or viewed from below?

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#2851141 15-Jan-2022 14:10

MadEngineer:

Out of interest what do the two-tone grey products look like as you browse through the pages on these websites? You should be able to see them in their entirety and not with sections faded out

Does it make any difference if you view the screen from an angle with the monitor tilted back or viewed from below?

I'm not sure exactly what you're referring to. The products on the Halcyon page have a dark shade applied when hovering over them that makes the text almost unreadable with open blinds behind the monitor. It's readable in a darker environment, but still darker than I would personally choose. The other pages appear perfectly readable everywhere I looked. IPS panel, so horizontally the image doesn't change much. IPS has poor vertical viewing angles, so no surprise it's unreadable if I look down on the monitor.

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#2851142 15-Jan-2022 14:12

SirHumphreyAppleby:

The products on the Halcyon page have a dark shade applied when hovering over them that makes the text almost unreadable with open blinds behind the monitor.

Same here on my (roughly) calibrated display.

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#2851163 15-Jan-2022 16:00

That's intentional to highlight the category button for each section I guess. Try drilling down into the pages that show specific products.

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#2851167 15-Jan-2022 16:21

For those of you who really like getting your hands dirty in customising FireFox to your own satisfaction and revert to "classic" features, there is another github resource:

https://github.com/Aris-t2/CustomCSSforFx

main page here:

https://github.com/Aris-t2

I have been using Aris-t2 Firefox custom add-ons and now the above for years. They are VERY customisable.

EDIT: "Classic Theme Restorer" was Aris-t2 famous add-on. Thanks quickymart for reminding me of the name

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