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#1613969 18-Aug-2016 20:31

Today I rolled my main machine back to 8.1. Primarily the occasional unresponsiveness of the UI got to me after Anniversary. I intended to claim the 10 licence and roll back so not a biggie.

I'm still happy to recommend 10 for most people but personally I would prefer the stability of Enterprise or LTSB. As a non-enterprise power user there is not really a clear path to that yet. It is unfortunate because I really would expect the additional control that provides as a 'pro' user.

As for Anniversary it will be interesting to see how many friends and family type calls I get as Anniversary rolls out. I suspect It did change the default scaling on my machine for some reason so maybe there will be 'my icons have gone small' or something like that.

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#1614029 19-Aug-2016 06:11

gzt: Today I rolled my main machine back to 8.1. Primarily the occasional unresponsiveness of the UI got to me after Anniversary. I intended to claim the 10 licence and roll back so not a biggie.

I'm still happy to recommend 10 for most people but personally I would prefer the stability of Enterprise or LTSB. As a non-enterprise power user there is not really a clear path to that yet. It is unfortunate because I really would expect the additional control that provides as a 'pro' user.

As for Anniversary it will be interesting to see how many friends and family type calls I get as Anniversary rolls out. I suspect It did change the default scaling on my machine for some reason so maybe there will be 'my icons have gone small' or something like that.

Enterprise & Enterprise LTSB are just as stable as every other version of Windows 10.

Windows 10 Enterprise LTSB 2016 has the same features as Windows 10 Enterprise version 1607, with the following exceptions:

Edge, Windows Store, and Cortana are not included (just like in Windows 10 Enterprise LTSB 2015)
Ink Workspace is not included (new in LTSB 2016)
In-box Universal Windows Apps are not included:
- Sports, Money, Sound Recorder (Modern),Video (Player), Photos, Camera, Music, Solitaire, Alarms and Clock, Calculator (Modern) (same as LTSB 2015)
- Messaging, Paid WiFi & Cellular, Skype, Sticky Notes, Windows Feedback Hub, Connect (new apps not in LTSB 2016)

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#1614055 19-Aug-2016 07:57

cb1:

I've had repeats of 2 minor problems I had initially with Windows 10 when I upgraded in Feb/March this year. The issues were fixed a few months later. On the laptop, after disconnecting the wifi and hibernating/restarting I am able to connect to the wifi network, but unable to get an internet connection. Repeated attempts fail but a reboot and then retry works ok.

On a desktop, after restarting from hibernation, the lock screen appears, hit enter and then most of the time there is no response to enter, but mouse click works. In the anniversary edition only, there is sometimes a blue background instead of a proper picture.

Try rolling back or an older driver - struck this problem with my wife's computer and it's a right PITA. Happened to hers after upgrading from 8.1 > 10. But since rolling back to an older driver it has worked fine.

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#1614059 19-Aug-2016 08:08

nathan:
gzt: Today I rolled my main machine back to 8.1. Primarily the occasional unresponsiveness of the UI got to me after Anniversary. I intended to claim the 10 licence and roll back so not a biggie.

I'm still happy to recommend 10 for most people but personally I would prefer the stability of Enterprise or LTSB. As a non-enterprise power user there is not really a clear path to that yet. It is unfortunate because I really would expect the additional control that provides as a 'pro' user.

As for Anniversary it will be interesting to see how many friends and family type calls I get as Anniversary rolls out. I suspect It did change the default scaling on my machine for some reason so maybe there will be 'my icons have gone small' or something like that.

Enterprise & Enterprise LTSB are just as stable as every other version of Windows 10.

Windows 10 Enterprise LTSB 2016 has the same features as Windows 10 Enterprise version 1607, with the following exceptions:

Edge, Windows Store, and Cortana are not included (just like in Windows 10 Enterprise LTSB 2015)

Ink Workspace is not included (new in LTSB 2016)

In-box Universal Windows Apps are not included:

Sports, Money, Sound Recorder (Modern),Video (Player), Photos, Camera, Music, Solitaire, Alarms and Clock, Calculator (Modern) (same as LTSB 2015)

Messaging, Paid WiFi & Cellular, Skype, Sticky Notes, Windows Feedback Hub, Connect (new apps not in LTSB 2016)

Stability' may be a bad choice of words on my part. 'feature stable' was my intended meaning. Pro has the ability to 'defer' (kind of a slow ring), but not a 'never install' option for feature updates.

Thanks for the additional info on LTSB.

nunz

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#1615247 21-Aug-2016 20:03

Browser stats make interesting reading with a claim being made that over 85% of all Win10 users DONT use Edge.

Personally I find it cripple ware and cry every time someone codes their app to use it explicitly.

Loving being back on Windows 7. Fast, fast and umm... fast. As well as stable.

Shane

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#1615365 21-Aug-2016 21:51

Happy anniversary! Just downloaded and updated without a hitch on my geriatric Satellite Pro ML500. Nice!

gml

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#1615405 22-Aug-2016 07:01

One thing I really like is how win 10 finds and installs network printers all by itself. Magic. I was used to having to do it manually on win 7.

The other day I set up three identical brand new laptops on the same network and on two the magically added networked printer works fine but number three is giving the printer status as 'off line' after working initially for a couple days (the printer is not offline). I'm going to wrangle with it today trying the easy stuff first like remove and re-add the printer, driver update check and then add printer using IP if required. There is no access to SNMP settings through the gui to turn it off so I assume this won't be one to try (ie. with regedit). Hopefully it will keep working once I get it going and not conk out after a few days again.

Any other suggestions to try are welcome.

Also on my SP4, last week on the same network the statically assigned IP from the server was confusing my wifi/net connectivity mightily and took a while to stabilise (without my intervention because I was busy). Not sure if it's the SP4 or win 10 but I never had this issue on Win 7 or any other hardware from phones to PCs and this is not the first time on my SP4 having this issue on this network. I've mentioned this one before.

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#1615518 22-Aug-2016 09:56

For anyone running a media computer and trying to complete the anniversary update: if you find yourself without 20GB free disk space (like me) remember that you can plug in a <8GB USB stick or external HDD and use it as temporary storage.

JayADee

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#1615637 22-Aug-2016 11:43

So yeah, as an update to my previous post one post upthread, I added the printer via IP and it worked fine. Ended up after checking I had to do it to all three. Restarted each laptop a couple times and re-printed to make sure. Fingers crossed it stays that way.

Also no drama with my SP4 and wifi/internet on that network today.

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#1616033 22-Aug-2016 20:44

UHD:

For anyone running a media computer and trying to complete the anniversary update: if you find yourself without 20GB free disk space (like me) remember that you can plug in a <8GB USB stick or external HDD and use it as temporary storage.

Didn't work for me. I had a 64GB stick plugged in when I went to install, and it ignored it.

Haven't rolled back my other laptop yet because of a busy weekend. Really hoping MS sort the keyboard lag!

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#1616039 22-Aug-2016 20:49

Good news, after my cheap china tablet ran flat totally, the wifi is now working as bad as ever on it, also the stylus is now working again too. Guess the hardware just locked up and the fake shutdown that windows does on tablets was not enough to actually reset it.

Richard rich.ms

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#1616207 23-Aug-2016 10:27

JayADee: One thing I really like is how win 10 finds and installs network printers all by itself. Magic. I was used to having to do it manually on win 7.

The other day I set up three identical brand new laptops on the same network and on two the magically added networked printer works fine but number three is giving the printer status as 'off line' after working initially for a couple days (the printer is not offline). I'm going to wrangle with it today trying the easy stuff first like remove and re-add the printer, driver update check and then add printer using IP if required. There is no access to SNMP settings through the gui to turn it off so I assume this won't be one to try (ie. with regedit). Hopefully it will keep working once I get it going and not conk out after a few days again.

Any other suggestions to try are welcome.

Also on my SP4, last week on the same network the statically assigned IP from the server was confusing my wifi/net connectivity mightily and took a while to stabilise (without my intervention because I was busy). Not sure if it's the SP4 or win 10 but I never had this issue on Win 7 or any other hardware from phones to PCs and this is not the first time on my SP4 having this issue on this network. I've mentioned this one before.

If you have brother printers it is worth reinstalling brother control center as they are really fussy about how it all connects together. Especially scan from Printer and similar functionality.

ronw

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#1616210 23-Aug-2016 10:37

how does it turn up just an update as other packages or is it a special message as per windows 10 original update. I have 8 PC's here and so far not seen any updates

mdav056:

Happy anniversary! Just downloaded and updated without a hitch on my geriatric Satellite Pro ML500. Nice!

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nathan

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#1616241 23-Aug-2016 11:33

ronw:

how does it turn up just an update as other packages or is it a special message as per windows 10 original update. I have 8 PC's here and so far not seen any updates

mdav056:

Happy anniversary! Just downloaded and updated without a hitch on my geriatric Satellite Pro ML500. Nice!

your PC is in a queue and will eventually receive it thru Windows Update.

You can manually install it now by following the instructions here

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/12387/windows-10-update-history

https://blogs.windows.com/windowsexperience/2016/08/02/how-to-get-the-windows-10-anniversary-update/

mdav056

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#1616261 23-Aug-2016 12:20

nathan:

ronw:

how does it turn up just an update as other packages or is it a special message as per windows 10 original update. I have 8 PC's here and so far not seen any updates

mdav056:

Happy anniversary! Just downloaded and updated without a hitch on my geriatric Satellite Pro ML500. Nice!

your PC is in a queue and will eventually receive it thru Windows Update.

You can manually install it now by following the instructions here

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/12387/windows-10-update-history

https://blogs.windows.com/windowsexperience/2016/08/02/how-to-get-the-windows-10-anniversary-update/

Or in Win 10,

Settings - Update & Security - Learn more (takes you to the update-history link above)

gml

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