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#1356549 1-Aug-2015 11:28

Jedsdad: Interesting, I changed my monitor and then I could see it had booted up ok to win 10.

Now back on the original monitor and still ok.

Wont try and restart till tonight--- just in case

Faulty display cable or port

Here is a crazy notion, lets give peace a chance.

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#1356555 1-Aug-2015 11:38

I got this email from Microsoft yesterday

Absolutely can’t wait? You have a couple of options to get your upgrade sooner:

Visit a Microsoft Store for free upgrade services.

Use the Media Creation Tool to install immediately on one or more devices (recommended for tech-savvy users only).

http://www.microsoft.com/en-US/software-download/windows10?OCID=reserve_r_PostReserve_MediaCreationTool

I used step 2 and it worked fine, just download the corrrect tool depending on your PC, run it and follow instructions

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#1356565 1-Aug-2015 11:49

Anyone tried a clean install after activating your machine?

Windows 8 was a nightmare to do, in the end i convinced Dell to send me a bootable usb and then it worked. How do you get the "right" iso to burn it the "right" way to usb or have Microsoft made it less complicated?

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#1356573 1-Aug-2015 12:04

kiwifidget:
nathan: the upgrade key can activate, if you have an activated 7/8.1 key beforehand and actually upgraded with internet

relax, the Store and Activation servers are just really busy and it probably can't quite process your activation yet.

There are around 3,000 people a minute upgrading to Windows 10 right now

So it's like when you go to the bank at lunch time and there is only one teller?

More like if everyone in Auckland went to only ANZ's, at the same lunch break and they only had the regular number of tellers.

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#1356583 1-Aug-2015 12:27

gzt:
ToPGuNZ:
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ToPGuNZ: My notification disappeared, windows update says it is reserved, so currently using the Windows update tool on a Win 7 Home Premium PC. Looking forward to this.

And it just stopped. PC is on, no hard drive activity, nothing on screen. Will leave for awhile, I have a feeling restarting is not going to go well.

I turned it off and on and it reverted back to Win 7 and provided this error. I will now uninstall media centre and try again. Does anyone have any idea what this error means?

I will guess the imaging process could not target a drive or partition for some reason, but I do not know. Is there BIOS boot sector protection?

That's beyond my knowledge, will investigate. I will also look at deleting install folder and trying again.

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#1356591 1-Aug-2015 12:57

ToPGuNZ:
gzt:
ToPGuNZ:
ToPGuNZ:
ToPGuNZ: My notification disappeared, windows update says it is reserved, so currently using the Windows update tool on a Win 7 Home Premium PC. Looking forward to this.

And it just stopped. PC is on, no hard drive activity, nothing on screen. Will leave for awhile, I have a feeling restarting is not going to go well.

I turned it off and on and it reverted back to Win 7 and provided this error. I will now uninstall media centre and try again. Does anyone have any idea what this error means?

I will guess the imaging process could not target a drive or partition for some reason, but I do not know. Is there BIOS boot sector protection?

That's beyond my knowledge, will investigate. I will also look at deleting install folder and trying again.

got this myself after jumping through a lot hoops. Not sure which was doing it but I switched off Nortons, unplugged external hard drive and USB stick (I setup from internal SSD) ran setup again and all go.

My first hoop that I found had issues was my boot partition wasn't the right size so had to follow a tutorial to fix that first.

All go now but seems laggy using Chrome, no surprises there :)

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#1356593 1-Aug-2015 13:03

How I fixed the reserved partition issue:
Note this is from Win 8 if coming from Win 7 step up needs to be this chkdsk Y: /F /X /L:5000 as sdcleanup isn't known in win7
" Below are all the steps
1. press win+r and type diskmgmt.msc
2. click on your C: drive
3. below the list of drives there will be a partition map, the first partition will be Data or some such, listed at 100MB, right click on it and go to change drive letters and paths -> add -> now choose Y: for the drive letter
4. open an admin cmd prompt, in win8 you can press win+x and choose command prompt (admin), in win7 you have to create a shortcut for cmd.exe, then go to compatibility in the shortcut properties, and choose run as admin
5. type: Y: <enter> in the cmd window
6. run these commands: takeown /f . /r /d y icacls . /grant administrators:F /t attrib -h -s -r bootmgr NOTE: for the icacls command you can use your username instead of administrators, to find out your username type 'whoami'
7. now open explorer (win+e) go to the Y: drive under compuer, go into the Boot folder, and delete all languages other than en-US. Languages are in the form xx-XX. Make sure to shift+delete and not just delete so they don't go to the recycle bin. Empty the recycle bin afterwards just in case.
8. now go back to the admin command prompt, and type this command: chkdsk Y: /F /X /sdcleanup /L:5000 this truncates the NTFS log to 5MB, it can be very very big, not leaving enough space for the install
at the end of the output it should tell you that you have at least 50MB of free space on the partition
9. proceed with the windows 10 installation"

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edit: change layout to something readable

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#1356594 1-Aug-2015 13:06

jeffnz:
ToPGuNZ:
gzt:
ToPGuNZ:
ToPGuNZ:
ToPGuNZ: My notification disappeared, windows update says it is reserved, so currently using the Windows update tool on a Win 7 Home Premium PC. Looking forward to this.

And it just stopped. PC is on, no hard drive activity, nothing on screen. Will leave for awhile, I have a feeling restarting is not going to go well.

I turned it off and on and it reverted back to Win 7 and provided this error. I will now uninstall media centre and try again. Does anyone have any idea what this error means?

I will guess the imaging process could not target a drive or partition for some reason, but I do not know. Is there BIOS boot sector protection?

That's beyond my knowledge, will investigate. I will also look at deleting install folder and trying again.

got this myself after jumping through a lot hoops. Not sure which was doing it but I switched off Nortons, unplugged external hard drive and USB stick (I setup from internal SSD) ran setup again and all go.

My first hoop that I found had issues was my boot partition wasn't the right size so had to follow a tutorial to fix that first.

All go now but seems laggy using Chrome, no surprises there :)

Thanks Jeffnz. I do not have norton, no external drive and no usb connected. It could be boot partition. I am trying again now and will see if it does it again. If so will look at the partition.

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#1356616 1-Aug-2015 13:47

don't think it will help as I had to do taht to get to the stage it started to update.

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#1356628 1-Aug-2015 14:29

joker97: Anyone tried a clean install after activating your machine?

Windows 8 was a nightmare to do, in the end i convinced Dell to send me a bootable usb and then it worked. How do you get the "right" iso to burn it the "right" way to usb or have Microsoft made it less complicated?

I read that if Windows 10 was activated, then the Windows Store would have the right key and you would be able to reinstall. I presume that requires that you have used your Microsoft account to login to Windows 10 - I do not use my Microsoft account much and prefer a local login without a password, as I can then just leave the PC to boot up rather than have to wait for it to ask for me to login. I suspect the real problem will come if you upgrade the motherboard (or whatever bit of hardware Microsoft uses to identify the PC), and then want to do a clean install. I googled and found a tool that dumped my Windows 10 Product Key for me (BackupWindowsKey.vbs), and there are probably other tools that will work too. I hope that will allow me to do a clean install if I swap in the more powerful motherboard I have waiting for my test PC where I have Windows 10. I do want to test that process, and a few other things, before I think of upgrading my main Windows 7 Ultimate PC or my Windows 7 Home laptop.

Note that the above applies to old style PCs - newer ones (UEFI) that come with Windows pre-installed may have the product key stored in the BIOS apparently. Hopefully the Windows 10 upgrade will have updated that key, or the old one will still work.

I have lost the page I got BackupWindowsKey.vbs from, so if anyone wants a copy, I have put it on a blind URL on my web server:

http://www.jsw.gen.nz/BackupWindowsKey.vbs

It creates a file WindowsKeyInfo.txt on your desktop.

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#1356629 1-Aug-2015 14:40

fe31nz:
joker97: Anyone tried a clean install after activating your machine?

Windows 8 was a nightmare to do, in the end i convinced Dell to send me a bootable usb and then it worked. How do you get the "right" iso to burn it the "right" way to usb or have Microsoft made it less complicated?

I read that if Windows 10 was activated, then the Windows Store would have the right key and you would be able to reinstall. I presume that requires that you have used your Microsoft account to login to Windows 10 - I do not use my Microsoft account much and prefer a local login without a password, as I can then just leave the PC to boot up rather than have to wait for it to ask for me to login. I suspect the real problem will come if you upgrade the motherboard (or whatever bit of hardware Microsoft uses to identify the PC), and then want to do a clean install. I googled and found a tool that dumped my Windows 10 Product Key for me (BackupWindowsKey.vbs), and there are probably other tools that will work too. I hope that will allow me to do a clean install if I swap in the more powerful motherboard I have waiting for my test PC where I have Windows 10. I do want to test that process, and a few other things, before I think of upgrading my main Windows 7 Ultimate PC or my Windows 7 Home laptop.

Note that the above applies to old style PCs - newer ones (UEFI) that come with Windows pre-installed may have the product key stored in the BIOS apparently. Hopefully the Windows 10 upgrade will have updated that key, or the old one will still work.

I have lost the page I got BackupWindowsKey.vbs from, so if anyone wants a copy, I have put it on a blind URL on my web server:

http://www.jsw.gen.nz/BackupWindowsKey.vbs

It creates a file WindowsKeyInfo.txt on your desktop.

No it has nothing to do with a Microsoft Account

No Windows 10 cannot use a Windows 8 key embedded in UEFI

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#1356631 1-Aug-2015 14:41

joker97: Anyone tried a clean install after activating your machine?

Windows 8 was a nightmare to do, in the end i convinced Dell to send me a bootable usb and then it worked. How do you get the "right" iso to burn it the "right" way to usb or have Microsoft made it less complicated?

My flatmate did this a couple of days ago. Upgraded machine to 10 then did a clean install. When asked for a key he just skipped and after everything installed he checked and it was activated and running happily. May take a day or two to activate at the moment but all should go smoothly.

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#1356666 1-Aug-2015 16:04

Installed on Folio 13 now as well, so three PCs at home upgraded. Will keep HTPC on Windows 7 because of Media Center.

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#1356680 1-Aug-2015 16:32

joker97: Anyone tried a clean install after activating your machine?

Windows 8 was a nightmare to do, in the end i convinced Dell to send me a bootable usb and then it worked. How do you get the "right" iso to burn it the "right" way to usb or have Microsoft made it less complicated?

Yep, did a clean install last night, was easy as anything.. just use the media creation tool from the Microsoft site and choose the right image for your install. Example if you are running 7 pro, get 10 pro. And when it asks for a key, just skip entering one and it will activate once you have logged into your Microsoft Account.

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#1356708 1-Aug-2015 17:28

semigeek:
joker97: Anyone tried a clean install after activating your machine?

Windows 8 was a nightmare to do, in the end i convinced Dell to send me a bootable usb and then it worked. How do you get the "right" iso to burn it the "right" way to usb or have Microsoft made it less complicated?

Yep, did a clean install last night, was easy as anything.. just use the media creation tool from the Microsoft site and choose the right image for your install. Example if you are running 7 pro, get 10 pro. And when it asks for a key, just skip entering one and it will activate once you have logged into your Microsoft Account.

I'm Running 7 Pro 64, but when I download the media creation tool from MS and try to run it (either as user or Admin), after the UAC dialog box, nothing happens.

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