Windows Server 2008 vs 2012 Confusion

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#113887 30-Jan-2013 22:37

Hello guys,

Most of the jobs I tried to apply, ask for Windows server knowledge as well. So what should I do? I have no clue where to start I mean I searched online and MS offering MCSA & MCIPT kind of certification and confused with 2008 & 2012.

Can someone please guide me as to what exam(s) I should take. I'm kind of confused because I heard that they're retiring MCIPT and bringing back MCSE this is the problem I'm clueless. Even they have an expanded path with private clouds, communication with 2012 certification. bt dunno which one would be better to study, 2008 or 2012 ?

thanks in advance.

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#753553 30-Jan-2013 23:15

I wouldn't bother studying for 2008, It is no longer the current OS. A 2012 certification will be current for longer than a 2008 one ;)

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#756998 7-Feb-2013 15:48

I'd definitely try and pick up some 2008 skills but you'll want to follow the 2012 certification path.

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#757010 7-Feb-2013 16:27

I'd study 2008 over 2012. Enterprises are in no rush to upgrade from Server 2008 to Server 2012. Costs lots of $$$. I will be upgrading my Server 2003 to Server 2008 this year.

Do whatever you want to do man.

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#757012 7-Feb-2013 16:30

billgates: I'd study 2008 over 2012. Enterprises are in no rush to upgrade from Server 2008 to Server 2012. Costs lots of $$$. I will be upgrading my Server 2003 to Server 2008 this year.

Depends on their licensing model. Some organisations will be forced into upgrading based on their license being applicable to current gen versions only.

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#757017 7-Feb-2013 16:39

billgates: I'd study 2008 over 2012. Enterprises are in no rush to upgrade from Server 2008 to Server 2012. Costs lots of $$$. I will be upgrading my Server 2003 to Server 2008 this year.

THIS! Honestly pickup a copy of Mastering Windows 2003 Server and Mastering 2008 Server from Mark Minasi, read them cover to cover and get yourself a lab.

There are still sites running earlier versions, and in the process of reading the 2003 stuff, you will pickup plenty of background knowledge for the new products too. Mark Minasi books are big but very readable.

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#757064 7-Feb-2013 19:05

gehenna:
billgates: I'd study 2008 over 2012. Enterprises are in no rush to upgrade from Server 2008 to Server 2012. Costs lots of $$$. I will be upgrading my Server 2003 to Server 2008 this year.

Depends on their licensing model. Some organisations will be forced into upgrading based on their license being applicable to current gen versions only.

Its my understanding that all MS server licenses are portable to earlier revisions.

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#757067 7-Feb-2013 19:16

MCITP is now the latest qual for Microsoft server from what I have been lead to believe. I am working through it at the moment. It is based on Server 08. As mentioned 2012 has just come out and once you get the base knowledge it wont be too hard to transition to '12 - well thats what I am hoping anyway lol.

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#757169 7-Feb-2013 22:56

networkn:
billgates: I'd study 2008 over 2012. Enterprises are in no rush to upgrade from Server 2008 to Server 2012. Costs lots of $$$. I will be upgrading my Server 2003 to Server 2008 this year.

THIS! Honestly pickup a copy of Mastering Windows 2003 Server and Mastering 2008 Server from Mark Minasi, read them cover to cover and get yourself a lab.

There are still sites running earlier versions, and in the process of reading the 2003 stuff, you will pickup plenty of background knowledge for the new products too. Mark Minasi books are big but very readable.

Agreed, I was even decommissioning / upgrading NT 4.0 domain controllers in last May :)

MCSE+M/S, MCITP

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#757170 7-Feb-2013 23:00

chevrolux: MCITP is now the latest qual for Microsoft server from what I have been lead to believe. I am working through it at the moment. It is based on Server 08. As mentioned 2012 has just come out and once you get the base knowledge it wont be too hard to transition to '12 - well thats what I am hoping anyway lol.

MCSE is the new and current one, MS is retiring the MCITP certifications.
How the tracks looked like since the 2000 times:

MCSA/MCSE - Windows Server 2000/2003 (There were messaging and security track - Exchange / ISA)
MCITP - Windows Server 2008 (R2) / Exchange 2007/2010 / Sharepoint / Development / SQL etc
MCSE - Windows Server 2012 plus a lot of tracks (http://www.microsoft.com/learning/en/us/mcse-certification.aspx)

I would start with the 2012 exams, they will purge the 2008 (R2) ones pretty quickly.

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#757172 7-Feb-2013 23:08

onebytemike:
gehenna:
billgates: I'd study 2008 over 2012. Enterprises are in no rush to upgrade from Server 2008 to Server 2012. Costs lots of $$$. I will be upgrading my Server 2003 to Server 2008 this year.

Depends on their licensing model. Some organisations will be forced into upgrading based on their license being applicable to current gen versions only.

Its my understanding that all MS server licenses are portable to earlier revisions.

With MS Action pack you have to always use the latest version once released. Open value with software assurance and MS SPLA gives you room for choice.

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#757176 7-Feb-2013 23:24

insane:
onebytemike:
gehenna:
billgates: I'd study 2008 over 2012. Enterprises are in no rush to upgrade from Server 2008 to Server 2012. Costs lots of $$$. I will be upgrading my Server 2003 to Server 2008 this year.

Depends on their licensing model. Some organisations will be forced into upgrading based on their license being applicable to current gen versions only.

Its my understanding that all MS server licenses are portable to earlier revisions.

With MS Action pack you have to always use the latest version once released. Open value with software assurance and MS SPLA gives you room for choice.

I never noticed the 12 month upgrade requirement on it before. If it wasn't for the win8, this might not have been much of an issue but I can't many people wanting to "upgrade" from win7.

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#757618 9-Feb-2013 10:02

onebytemike: I never noticed the 12 month upgrade requirement on it before. If it wasn't for the win8, this might not have been much of an issue but I can't many people wanting to "upgrade" from win7.

I agree, I've been running win8 at work since released and it makes for a rather poor workstation experience. Really sucks that you need it to manage multiple 2012 servers from a single screen, not that I do that yet as I have no production 2012 servers yet, but have to be prepared.

I suspect 2K8 R2 SPx be the status quo for longer than 2K3 if MS don't kill off support. Why break / change what's not broken.

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#757635 9-Feb-2013 10:34

So they got rid of mcse and then bought it back? Better hurry up and do the exams then before they get rid of it completely.

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#757638 9-Feb-2013 10:45

Unfortunately MS is largely lost for direction it would seem. They need new leadership, they are all over the place. A few years back they were listening, taking feedback and heading in a direction most people though was good, then something seems to have happened internally and they have lost their way. It's particularly difficult as a partner to see them going this way.

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#758696 9-Feb-2013 14:45

networkn: Unfortunately MS is largely lost for direction it would seem. They need new leadership, they are all over the place. A few years back they were listening, taking feedback and heading in a direction most people though was good, then something seems to have happened internally and they have lost their way. It's particularly difficult as a partner to see them going this way.

I know this is slightly OT, but you must be talking about the demise of SBS and TMG... boggles the mind.

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