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  #901650 24-Sep-2013 08:53
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  #901652 24-Sep-2013 08:54
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NZ launches on Oct 23

Surface 2 is $649

Surface Pro 2 is $1449

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  #901653 24-Sep-2013 09:00
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Does the year of free skype calling etc that is offered in the US also apply here? 

It seems like the docking station is only for the Pro - any intention to offer one for the RT?



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  #901668 24-Sep-2013 09:13
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The Docking Station is only for Surface Pro and Surface Pro 2

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  #901669 24-Sep-2013 09:20
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Full NZ price list:

 

  • Surface2 32GB $649
  • Surface2 64GB $799
  • Surface Pro2 128GB $1449
  • Surface Pro2 256GB $1879
  • Touch Cover 2 $184.99
  • Type Cover 2 $199.99
  • Arc Touch Mouse ‘Surface Edition’ $104.99
  • Car charger Accessory $79.99
  • Surface Pro Dock (backwards compat.) $309.99




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  #901670 24-Sep-2013 09:24
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Gah! $1449 for the Pro2!

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  #901684 24-Sep-2013 09:37
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Hrmm, ok, I'll wait for the T300.



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  #901686 24-Sep-2013 09:38
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Yes the Skype and SkyDrive 200GB free for 2 years offers are for NZ too

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  #901691 24-Sep-2013 09:39
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networkn: Gah! $1449 for the Pro2!


You forgot the keyboard, starting at $184. That makes it $1633.

I get it, the Pro is effectively an extremely portable Ultrabook with a touch screen. Still, it isn't what I would call a 'price fighter'. 

I was thinking something similar with the Surface [RT] 2. $650 isn't bad, but $734 is getting a bit much.

Personally, I'm waiting for those amazing new devices from Asus.  




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  #901693 24-Sep-2013 09:40
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crackrdbycracku:
networkn: Gah! $1449 for the Pro2!


You forgot the keyboard, starting at $184. That makes it $1633.

I get it, the Pro is effectively an extremely portable Ultrabook with a touch screen. Still, it isn't what I would call a 'price fighter'. 

I was thinking something similar with the Surface [RT] 2. $650 isn't bad, but $734 is getting a bit much.

Personally, I'm waiting for those amazing new devices from Asus.  


Yep I can't see them getting much traction with those prices. I don't suppose Pro gives you free office either ?

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  #901699 24-Sep-2013 09:46
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Surface Pro doesn't ship with a free copy of Office 2013, no.

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  #901701 24-Sep-2013 09:47
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You have to wonder, do MS not actually want to sell these things to the Public?

The Surface2 should be aimed straight at the iPad, and to get any traction, below it's price, which it pretty much is - these may sell, so long as Apps are written for them. But the Pro2 - $1449 + Keyboard or Dock (or both)??? I think MS are only interested in corporates for this tablet.

How long before another $900m writedown? I suppose they still have some cash, and Apple is doing itself no favours with the iPhone release. The Xbox One may bring in some more cash for them too..


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  #901710 24-Sep-2013 09:58
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trig42: 
The Surface2 should be aimed straight at the iPad, and to get any traction, below it's price, which it pretty much is - these may sell, so long as Apps are written for them. But the Pro2 - $1449 + Keyboard or Dock (or both)??? I think MS are only interested in corporates for this tablet.


I suspect you'll find that's exactly the aim - the Surface 2 as the consumer device to compete with the iPad and Android ranges, and the Surface 2 Pro aimed at the business market as a full laptop replacement that also gives you tablet functionality. Asus' VivoTab series has done pretty well, but being Atom-based, has only been able to pull away the lighter users. With an i3, i5, or even an i7, this newer range of heavyweight Windows hybrid devices does have a big market to touch, but it is not the entry-level consumer.

I am disappointed the Pro doesn't come with the type cover as standard - Asus TB T300 is looking to come in at the same price, and includes the keyboard dock, and has options for i3/i5/i7.

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  #901713 24-Sep-2013 10:00
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Yep $1450 way too much. I'll stick with the laptop.

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  #901715 24-Sep-2013 10:01
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trig42: You have to wonder, do MS not actually want to sell these things to the Public?


This I completely agree with. 

trig42: The Surface2 should be aimed straight at the iPad, and to get any traction, below it's price, which it pretty much is - these may sell, so long as Apps are written for them.


Here I disagree. The 'special sauce' for the Surface is the keyboard, whatever option you want, and that is about another $200. If you don't want a keyboard then you don't care about 'productivity'. Then you are not going to buy the Surface 2. You are going to look at the respective app stores and go Android or Apple as these are better consumption devices due to their better app stores.

To take the iPad and the Android crowd you have to fight on price or apps, not a two position kickstand. If MS wanted to fight on price the Touch Cover would be included. I think the key to to see tablets as a progression from netbooks, they aren't 'real computers' but most people don't need 'real computers' they want cheap things which do the things they want done. I think Asus gets this. 

trig42: But the Pro2 - $1449 + Keyboard or Dock (or both)??? I think MS are only interested in corporates for this tablet.


I don't think it's a tablet, it's and super portable PC. Yeah, it isn't cheap but it is a real computer which could do real work away from home. 

But yes, as I said on another thread; I don't think Microsoft understands the consumer market. 






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