Another step backwards in Windows 8: managing networks

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Topic # 137914 13-Dec-2013 08:59

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At work we have to change passwords every few weeks. And guess what? Unlike Windows 7, you can't go to Network and Sharing Center | Manage Wireless Networks to remove credentials. No... You have to use command line because this is gone.

Same with changing a network from Public to Private. This used to be just a click away. Now? I am sorry if you clicked the wrong option when first connecting to a gateway.

No wonder people have a hate to Windows 8. Who decided to remove functionality instead of improving it?

Unbelievable, if not true.

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Reply # 951434 13-Dec-2013 09:06

The PC doesn't ask for the new password when the old one fails?

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Reply # 951448 13-Dec-2013 09:27

Not immediately. On my Windows Phone I was able to remove the credentials, enter the new one again and connect.

I guess the controller allows logins using the new and old passwords for a while before it requires the new password only. I want to be proactive and remove the credentials on my tablet and start using the new one immediately, live I've done on my smartphone.

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Reply # 951508 13-Dec-2013 10:58

Yep. Agree with you there Mauricio. Being unable to manage wireless networks through the GUI is gigantic PITA. I have a corporate wireless network that I can't connect to on my Windows 8 laptop as I can't get to the config to change it. Android, IOS are no problems...

My views (except when I am looking out their windows) are not those of my employer.

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Reply # 951521 13-Dec-2013 11:34

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That's just crap.
A bit of looking around, and it looks like you can still "forget" a network, which will then give you the ability to add it again, but it's far from a nice solution.

Perhaps someone could write a powershell script that presents a rudimentary gui for managing wireless networks.

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Reply # 951531 13-Dec-2013 12:00

You could try this: http://www.thewindowsclub.com/wifi-profile-manager-windows-8

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Reply # 951565 13-Dec-2013 12:47

freitasm: At work we have to change passwords every few weeks. And guess what? Unlike Windows 7, you can't go to Network and Sharing Center | Manage Wireless Networks to remove credentials. No... You have to use command line because this is gone.

Same with changing a network from Public to Private. This used to be just a click away. Now? I am sorry if you clicked the wrong option when first connecting to a gateway.

No wonder people have a hate to Windows 8. Who decided to remove functionality instead of improving it?

Unbelievable, if not true.

well this is for Nathan, what did i say about many clicks to get things done :D

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Reply # 951584 13-Dec-2013 13:08

MackinNZ: You could try this: http://www.thewindowsclub.com/wifi-profile-manager-windows-8

Yup use this, I think I posted this not long after Windows 8 came out as I had the same issue.

Edit: Found it :)
http://www.geekzone.co.nz/forums.asp?forumid=45&topicid=110696&page_no=14#707252

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Reply # 951650 13-Dec-2013 14:26

This is especially bad given wifi access point spoofing is so easy now

http://www.troyhunt.com/2013/05/pineapple-surprise-mixing-trusting.html

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Reply # 951657 13-Dec-2013 14:32

Pretty sure it was present in Windows 8, but removed in 8.1

At least in Windows 8 you could opt to turn sharing on or off with a right click over the network name

This functionality seems to have been removed

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Reply # 951788 13-Dec-2013 17:50

changing public to private on Win 8.1 is under Change PC settings, network, connections, click the network and toggle 'Find devices and content' (or something like that).

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Reply # 955949 21-Dec-2013 19:06

TwoSeven: changing public to private on Win 8.1 is under Change PC settings, network, connections, click the network and toggle 'Find devices and content' (or something like that).

I can only get to PC Settings, Network, Connections. Nothing there about Find devices and content or similar.

Can you even change a network from public to private using the netsh command in command prompt?

I've disgusted at Microsoft for changing the managing of networks to command prompt. I tried deleting a profile listed as NeonsHouse 2. When typing in the appropriate command and network name, it said that network wasn't on the list.

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Reply # 955981 21-Dec-2013 21:00

curious to see what Nathan says :)