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#16987 7-Nov-2007 10:47
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I've used Thunderbird for email for a few years now, and I thought I'd give Outlook 2007 a try. I am interested in trying Outlook as is has a better calendar than Thunderbird, and I have been having issues with Thunderbird and one of my accounts that I would like to see if Outlook resolves. I have multiple email accounts:

1) An Exchange account hosted at University (Uni account).
2) An IMAP account hosted by a NZ provider (Work account).
3) (I have more, but two will suffice for this example)

I use my laptop at multiple locations, and therefore send emails using different smtp servers, depending on my location and ISP:

a) At work, I use smtpr.xtra.co.nz to send emails from all accounts (ISP is Xtra).
b) At uni, I use the University exchange server to send email from all accounts.
c) At home, I use smtp.clear.net.nz to send all emails (ISP is ClearNet).

Thunderbird sets email accounts up so that for each account, I can choose an IMAP/Exchange server for receiving emails. When sending emails, I can set each account to either a) always send email using a fixed smtp server, or b) send emails using a global smtp server preference. This works perfectly for me. I use the SmtpSelect add-on for Thunderbird, which allows me to quickly select a smtp server for all email sending using a drop-down list on the toolbar.

Looking at Outlook 2007, it seems like I have to assign a fixed smtp server for each account I use. This causes a problem when (say) I am connected to the Internet with ClearNet, but I want to send an email from my work account. Xtra's smtp server won't let me log in because I am not connected to the Internet through Xtra (this is fair enough). It therefore seems that each time I change locations, I would need to edit the account settings of all my accounts and change the smtp server based on my location - this is obviously not convenient.

I have Googled briefly and it seems like there is no simple, easy way to set Outlook up for emailing from multiple locations, where each location requires a different, global smtp server preference. The only workarounds I saw involved using dummy accounts, and involved a lot of fiddling about.

Does anyone have any suggestions? I assumed because it was so easy in Thunderbird, Outlook would be the same, perhaps this is not the case.

Cheers,

Ash

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#94053 7-Nov-2007 10:58
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You can use send.xtra.co.nz with authentication turned on from any network... This would solve your specific problem of having to find different smtp servers...




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  #94060 7-Nov-2007 11:34
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Funny, I've just migrated the opposite way from Outlook 07 to Thunderbird. The way I did it in Outlook was to create a new mail account for each SMTP server needed. Then when composing your message their is a an option to select which account to use when sending.

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  #94062 7-Nov-2007 12:18
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Thanks for the suggestion Mauricio, I wasn't aware that send.xtra.co.nz existed... I'll give it a shot.

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  #94063 7-Nov-2007 12:21
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The biggest headache you are likely to run into, is since the change to Yahoo!Xtra, if you are on a broadband Xtra plan, port 25 outgoing is blocked by default, meaning you cannot use another SMTP server without removing the block. I spent a frustrating week and 2 reinstalls of Windows before I worked this one out!

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  #94066 7-Nov-2007 12:35
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I just realised send.xtra.co.nz:25 won't work as it needs a valid Xtra username and password (I don't know my work's Xtra username and password - when at work I just use smtpr.xtra.co.nz, which allows logins with no credentials).

I have a ClearNet dial-up account (home use), but smtp.clear.net.nz won't let me connect unless I am dialed-in with ClearNet - do they allow logins from other networks at a different smtp server address perhaps?

EDIT: OK, looks like this is possible (a service called Mail+), but I have to pay for it...

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  #94080 7-Nov-2007 15:21
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Heres some good possible options:

Find the cheapest webhosting+mail account you can get (I got 2 years of 280GB storage and 2.8TB bandwidth (increasing all the time) for about $110USD total). I just use my own smtp server (authenticated) to send from any location.

I used to do the same thing with a Gmail account.

And finally, if you have an always on connection, you could run a free smtp server like hMailserver for Windows (opt out of port25 blocks with your ISP, and dont run in open relay mode). (Or use a Linux distribution like Clarkconnect, either on a box or in Virtual PC)







 
 
 
 

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  #94085 7-Nov-2007 15:34
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Thanks for the replies, I appreciate it. Unfortunately it looks like my options are (as I feared) not going to be anywhere near as simple as what I can achieve using default Thunderbird behavior, so I think I'll have to give Outlook a miss this time around.

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  #94086 7-Nov-2007 15:34
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Clear Net mail also supports authentication, so you should be able to use your clear net smtp.

See https://selfservice.clear.net.nz/cgi-bin/email/personal/email/remote-mail-access.html

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  #94090 7-Nov-2007 15:39
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Hi wongtop,

The problem there is that I can only use Clear's smtp server when I am connected using ClearNet as an ISP... I would need the ability to connect to their smtp even when I am using a different ISP. I can do this using Mail+, but this is not free (which I have no issue with, but doesn't suit).

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Hi, this is a step-by-step procedure to have two SMTP servers on Outlook 2007. It may work on previous versions, but I have no way to test it.

1. Create a new email account. The account should be POP3, even if your email account is IMAP (this way you won¡t have another accoun on your Mail Folders). Fill in the incoming email servers, outgoing email server (with your secondary SMTP server), and User name. Don't put your password. Go to More Settings and put a suitable name for this account (like Send Email from Home), and all the info required for your SMTP server, if it requires login and/or secure connection.

2. After creating it, it'll attempt to download your emails. Don't provide your password, just clic Cancel.

3. Go to Tools ===== Send/Receive ======= Send/Receive Settings ====== Define Send/Receive Groups. You'd probably see only one group (All Accounts). Clic Edit, and on the new window choose your new account on the left menu. There is an option that says "Receive mail items", you need to uncheck it.  Clic Ok.

This last step is used so Outlook will not attempt to download emails using your secondary account. This way every time you clic on Send/Receive, Outlook will receive email through your "primary" account and send email through the primary and secondary account.  When writting an email you'll see a button below Send, that allows you to define which account to use to send the email, so depending on your location you'll choose one or the other.

I hope this is helpful, like many people I connect to my school account from school and home, and my home ISP only allows me to send email through its own SMTP server.

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