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#177136 23-Jul-2015 17:52

After having a day of training getting ready for our Windows 10 deployment I'm suprised I've seen so little mention of what IMO is one of the best features of Windows 10. Windows Hello.
Once hardware starts coming standard with the required cameras (am advised by our account manager we should start seeing these builtin by the end of the year) I can see this becoming a really useful way of enforcing stricter security policys within the workplace without making it too difficult for the end users to want to use it.

For a more in depth look at Hello I recommend watching module 10 of this MS Virtual Acadamey on Windows 10
https://www.microsoftvirtualacademy.com/en-us/training-courses/getting-started-with-windows-10-for-it-professionals-10629

To those that worry about using the camera to authenticate, Look at this screenshot from the above MVA. The left image being what is used to authenticate windows, the right is a photo from the camera.

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#1350637 23-Jul-2015 18:15

Agree, this is very good

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#1351002 24-Jul-2015 09:48

Ah, but will it work with a decapitated head?

I think this is a great idea, less reliance on passwords is great.

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#1351012 24-Jul-2015 10:00

I've been using my fingerprint reader for ever. It is super awesome, unfortunately it was the first thing cut on any non-business model.

This looks cool - provided the hardware support comes across the non-top end models.

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#1351021 24-Jul-2015 10:14

Michaelfjs: Ah, but will it work with a decapitated head?

I think this is a great idea, less reliance on passwords is great.

Yes it has liveness detection

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#1351025 24-Jul-2015 10:15

wasabi2k: I've been using my fingerprint reader for ever. It is super awesome, unfortunately it was the first thing cut on any non-business model.

This looks cool - provided the hardware support comes across the non-top end models.

Every fingerprint reader out there today that has Windows Biometric Framework drivers for Windows will already work with Windows Hello in Windows 10

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#1351028 24-Jul-2015 10:17

nathan:
Michaelfjs: Ah, but will it work with a decapitated head?

I think this is a great idea, less reliance on passwords is great.

Yes it has liveness detection

So you get your target completely smashed and drag them to the computer :)

More serious note.... does it recognize changes in faces, such as weight loss/gain over time ? A nose job ?

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#1351032 24-Jul-2015 10:20

Andib: After having a day of training getting ready for our Windows 10 deployment I'm suprised I've seen so little mention of what IMO is one of the best features of Windows 10. Windows Hello.
Once hardware starts coming standard with the required cameras (am advised by our account manager we should start seeing these builtin by the end of the year) I can see this becoming a really useful way of enforcing stricter security policys within the workplace without making it too difficult for the end users to want to use it.

For a more in depth look at Hello I recommend watching module 10 of this MS Virtual Acadamey on Windows 10
https://www.microsoftvirtualacademy.com/en-us/training-courses/getting-started-with-windows-10-for-it-professionals-10629

To those that worry about using the camera to authenticate, Look at this screenshot from the above MVA. The left image being what is used to authenticate windows, the right is a photo from the camera.

There are a variety of devices shipping with the camera hardware already and more due in the October/November timeframe

http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/architecture-and-technology/realsense-devices.html

I have a Windows Hello camera setup for login in the Microsoft Wellington & Auckland offices if anyone wants to come in for a demo or play

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#1351035 24-Jul-2015 10:22

xpd:

More serious note.... does it recognize changes in faces, such as weight loss/gain over time ? A nose job ?

It allows for changes in facial hair / glasses etc so I assusme it will however I was advised that it needs to be slow changes. i.e if you get into a fight and have a black eye it probably won't let you in.

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#1351041 24-Jul-2015 10:26

xpd:
So you get your target completely smashed and drag them to the computer :)

More serious note.... does it recognize changes in faces, such as weight loss/gain over time ? A nose job ?

"Hello, sorry I can not log you into Windows. Please lose some weight and try again."

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#1351493 25-Jul-2015 11:10

nathan:
wasabi2k: I've been using my fingerprint reader for ever. It is super awesome, unfortunately it was the first thing cut on any non-business model.

This looks cool - provided the hardware support comes across the non-top end models.

Every fingerprint reader out there today that has Windows Biometric Framework drivers for Windows will already work with Windows Hello in Windows 10

My HP laptop has a fingerprint reader and I have the drivers installed. It works with HP Security Client but I'd rather use the built-in Windows 8.1 security. But Biometrics is not in my Control Panel - how do I get it in so I can rely on Windows instead?

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#1351495 25-Jul-2015 11:18

freitasm:
nathan:
wasabi2k: I've been using my fingerprint reader for ever. It is super awesome, unfortunately it was the first thing cut on any non-business model.

This looks cool - provided the hardware support comes across the non-top end models.

Every fingerprint reader out there today that has Windows Biometric Framework drivers for Windows will already work with Windows Hello in Windows 10

My HP laptop has a fingerprint reader and I have the drivers installed. It works with HP Security Client but I'd rather use the built-in Windows 8.1 security. But Biometrics is not in my Control Panel - how do I get it in so I can rely on Windows instead?

no idea about Windows 8.1 sorry, upgrade to Windows 10 where "it should just work"

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#1351496 25-Jul-2015 11:19

I am thinking of removing the HP Security Client... Will image this laptop, remove it and then see how it goes after the upgrade.

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#1351503 25-Jul-2015 11:24

nathan:

Yes it has liveness detection

Let say if I am in front of the computer, got up and left to make tea.

If someone came to the desktop within 30 seconds, will it change user if it detects another person?

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#1351565 25-Jul-2015 12:54

So I reckon the above will be a Surface 4 feature. ; )

Back to the topic. Does Hello support iris authentication and will additional hardware be required for that above a built in HD camera?

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#1351573 25-Jul-2015 13:23

Windows Hello supports Facial, Iris and Fingerprint

Yes a special IR camera is needed like Intel Realsense F200, you cannot just use a normal RGB webcam. Adds less than $100 to cost of device.

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