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# 177854 16-Aug-2015 14:46
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So i'm thinking of installing the windows 10 upgrade. Firstly are there any major issues other than the typical it's new and has a few bugs?

my main question is - is this like a clean install or will all my installed programs remain on my machine? 

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  # 1367465 16-Aug-2015 14:54
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It is an upgrade but you can choose to keep nothing when you do it if you so desire.

If you really want a 'clean' install then you will need to do the upgrade so that the license is associated with your computer and THEN do a standard clean install using a DVD or USB.







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  # 1367476 16-Aug-2015 14:56
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I want to keep everything. is that possible?

 
 
 
 


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  # 1367480 16-Aug-2015 15:04
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It is indeed, and if I recall correctly it is the default :)





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  # 1367498 16-Aug-2015 16:01
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have you read the vast majority of other threads on here about windows 10, should have all your answers in them.

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  # 1367747 17-Aug-2015 09:27
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To upgrade free you must first do as an Upgrade NOT a clean install. As noted 

 

1) let Windows do and wait in queue. Simple, easy and unlikely to go wrong. Just run Windows Update each day until it says its ready
2) alternatively read the many threads here. Use the correct ISO, run the prechecks and done.

I have now upgraded 15 pcs and only one had anything more than niggle issues (it turns out had a trojan so clean install after the upgrade fixed)

 

 

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  # 1367789 17-Aug-2015 10:10
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kiwis: So i'm thinking of installing the windows 10 upgrade. Firstly are there any major issues other than the typical it's new and has a few bugs?

my main question is - is this like a clean install or will all my installed programs remain on my machine? 


1. no major issues [based on your definition of major].
2. you need to start the upgrade process from within your current windows environment. you have the option of
 - keep apps and data (all your installed programs remain)
 - keep data but not apps (you stuff is there but programs are wiped)
 - keep nothing (clean install)




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  # 1367870 17-Aug-2015 12:24
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If you want the full benefit of speed, and the bonus of a more consistent experience and less potential issues, then the clean install is the only way to go.

I've done it on one PC, waited a couple of weeks, and followed the threads ( to see the 'proper' way to do it - wouldn't have worked it out trying to 'follow my nose')

The update (clean installed) was successful and works very well.

One question, how is my 'upgrade' of Windows 10 associated with me? I'm using a local account, not an online MS account. So if I go to reinstall windows 10 again, where is my product key? or how will it activate?

 
 
 
 


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  # 1367876 17-Aug-2015 12:32
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The reason you upgrade over clean install the first time is so that the hardware/version is locked to the details of your pc (local or ms just with ms you can "see it" in account details at ms. The clean install after will see is same hardware and key will not be required for the clean install/wipe drive (confirmed by several who have done this). There is a great 76 page thread on the ms forums on how it works but like all old versions its likely you can change 3 items (say harddrive, ram, cpu) and will not ask for key (confirmed with one win 10 pc I have done ram/cpu and nothing tripped) but if you change motherboard you will most likely need a new windows 10 version. In many cases even if it asks for key can call and they may phone activate for you in some circumstances. There is some variances ie OEM System Builder vs normal OEM but thats getting away from the kind of details most people will hit. 

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  # 1367883 17-Aug-2015 12:40
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joker97:
kiwis: So i'm thinking of installing the windows 10 upgrade. Firstly are there any major issues other than the typical it's new and has a few bugs?

my main question is - is this like a clean install or will all my installed programs remain on my machine? 


1. no major issues [based on your definition of major].
2. you need to start the upgrade process from within your current windows environment. you have the option of
 - keep apps and data (all your installed programs remain)
 - keep data but not apps (you stuff is there but programs are wiped)
 - keep nothing (clean install)


Let me confuse some people.
My description of clean install is not the traditional clean install when you install an OS on a blank canvas (hard drive) so that absolutely no baggage (eg orphan files/registry entries, lost clusters, viruses) is carried over.




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  # 1367914 17-Aug-2015 14:07
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joker97:
joker97:
kiwis: So i'm thinking of installing the windows 10 upgrade. Firstly are there any major issues other than the typical it's new and has a few bugs?

my main question is - is this like a clean install or will all my installed programs remain on my machine? 


1. no major issues [based on your definition of major].
2. you need to start the upgrade process from within your current windows environment. you have the option of
 - keep apps and data (all your installed programs remain)
 - keep data but not apps (you stuff is there but programs are wiped)
 - keep nothing (clean install)


Let me confuse some people.
My description of clean install is not the traditional clean install when you install an OS on a blank canvas (hard drive) so that absolutely no baggage (eg orphan files/registry entries, lost clusters, viruses) is carried over.


your way is a good way, if you are wanting a "clean" install in one swoop.  Upgrade get your free Windows 10 upgrade activation key, and have a "clean" install.

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  # 1367985 17-Aug-2015 15:02
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Also:

If you have a laptop that has manufacturer specific drivers for the onboard functions - display strength, sounds, wifi, etc - like Sony, Acer and the like - CHECK THERE ARE UPDATED DRIVERS BEFORE YOU INSTALL

Sony's haven't got compatible drivers yet, meaning much control functionality is lost on upgrade.....




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  # 1368002 17-Aug-2015 15:23
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Did you try it or are you guessing? My 7 year old laptop that clean installed on 10 has every button working




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  # 1368010 17-Aug-2015 15:36
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antoniosk: Also:

If you have a laptop that has manufacturer specific drivers for the onboard functions - display strength, sounds, wifi, etc - like Sony, Acer and the like - CHECK THERE ARE UPDATED DRIVERS BEFORE YOU INSTALL

Sony's haven't got compatible drivers yet, meaning much control functionality is lost on upgrade.....


THink its mainly the Vaio's having driver issues,.... Sony has basically said "dont hold your breath".

Even if there are Win 10 drivers available for your hardware (laptop or desktop), research it first - AMD released Win 10 drivers for my R7 260X video card, pity they caused the system to BSOD every time. They only just fixed it recently (havent tried yet myself). Was some issue between the cards and Intel based systems running Win 10.....





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  # 1368077 17-Aug-2015 16:31
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i think it's still a blanket precautionary statement, coz mine was exactly a 7 year old vaio with only official support for Vista 32-bit (and unofficial 3rd party open source support for Vista 64 bit). I installed 10 64bit.




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  # 1368125 17-Aug-2015 17:54
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For my Acer with nVidia+Intel display drivers, I have long removed them and installed the official nVidia and Intel drivers when I last reinstall my Windows 8.1 (to SSD). But I used the Acer system restore to get the base system installed, then remove the video drivers.

With Windows 10 upgrade, I didn't need Acer drivers at all. Smooth upgrade.




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