Geekzone: technology news, blogs, forums
Guest
Welcome Guest.
You haven't logged in yet. If you don't have an account you can register now.


1439 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 316

Subscriber

Topic # 194966 1-Apr-2016 08:13
Send private message

Woke up this morning to find my pc had updated itself overnight.

 

I wasnt expecting that. No warnings.

 

Anyway, just like last time, I can no longer access shared folders on my server.

 

Also it bizarrely says in the bottom right corner : 

 

"Windows 10 Insider Preview - Evaluation copy. Build 14295.rs1_release.160318-1628"

 

In winver is says "Evaluation copy. Expires 16/7/2016"

 

Have I lost my free licence?

 

Bad Microsoft. Any major updates like this really should wait for user approval before installing.

 

 





Life is too short to remove USB safely.


Filter this topic showing only the reply marked as answer Create new topic
3033 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 768

Trusted
Lifetime subscriber

  Reply # 1523687 1-Apr-2016 08:15
Send private message

Are you in the preview program?

 

Did you run the windows preview before the release of windows 10?


4977 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 1323

Trusted
Microsoft

  Reply # 1523689 1-Apr-2016 08:20
Send private message

yes you're in Windows Insider Preview flights, you've opt-ed into this previously

 

Settings, Update & Security, Windows Update, Advanced, Insider Preview builds

 

 




1439 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 316

Subscriber

  Reply # 1523699 1-Apr-2016 08:33
Send private message

I am on the slow ring. But I am still annoyed that updates install without warning, or approval.

 

Its fortunate I dont have much to do today, because I'm probably going to have to rollback or restore from backup before the day is out.

 

Thats what I had to do last time after spending way too long with MS support trying to fix the network access problem.

 

IF I dont, what happens after the expiry date 16/7? 





Life is too short to remove USB safely.


3033 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 768

Trusted
Lifetime subscriber

  Reply # 1523700 1-Apr-2016 08:36
Send private message

If you don't like the preview updates etc then get out of the preview builds and let other people have the issues :P

 

 

 

You can then use the "defer upgrades" setting and set it to tell you that it needs to reboot etc


4977 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 1323

Trusted
Microsoft

  Reply # 1523702 1-Apr-2016 08:38
2 people support this post
Send private message

kiwifidget:

 

I am on the slow ring. But I am still annoyed that updates install without warning, or approval.

 

Its fortunate I dont have much to do today, because I'm probably going to have to rollback or restore from backup before the day is out.

 

Thats what I had to do last time after spending way too long with MS support trying to fix the network access problem.

 

IF I dont, what happens after the expiry date 16/7? 

 

 

 

 

you can roll back right from inside the Windows Update UI

 

If you don't want to receive Windows Insider flights then you shouldn't be in the Windows Insider Preview program

 

after 16/7 your eval license expires




1439 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 316

Subscriber

  Reply # 1523725 1-Apr-2016 08:55
One person supports this post
Send private message

@nathan please dont state the bleeding obvious to me.

 

Of course the licence expires, but what happens to the computer when that happens?

 

What are the ramifications? Does it revert back to a properly licensed pc like it was before, does it explode in a shower of spectacular fireworks, or something else?

 

I also tried opting out the builds but I'm having trouble doing that. 

 

 





Life is too short to remove USB safely.


13149 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 6170

Trusted
Subscriber

  Reply # 1523731 1-Apr-2016 09:03
Send private message

When I opted out which was easy I already had a W10 licence, I simply did a non destructive refresh of my PC and I had an activated full W10 build





Mike
Retired IT Manager. 
The views stated in my posts are my personal views and not that of any other organisation.

 

 Mac user, Windows curser, Chrome OS desired.

 

The great divide is the lies from both sides.

 

 


4977 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 1323

Trusted
Microsoft

  Reply # 1523738 1-Apr-2016 09:12
Send private message

Approximately 2 weeks before a build’s license expires, you will start getting warnings that this build will expire and that you should update to the most recent build.

 

 

 

When the build reaches the license expiration date, the system will automatically reboot every three hours

 

 

 

Windows will stop booting - in the case of 14295 this is on 1 August

483 posts

Ultimate Geek
+1 received by user: 286

Trusted

  Reply # 1523741 1-Apr-2016 09:16
4 people support this post
Send private message

At the risk of stating the bleeding obvious, I would not recommend running insider builds/previews on production/everyday/personal machines you rely on.




1439 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 316

Subscriber

  Reply # 1523746 1-Apr-2016 09:24
Send private message

roobarb:

 

At the risk of stating the bleeding obvious, I would not recommend running insider builds/previews on production/everyday/personal machines you rely on.

 

 

I dont rely on it, even though its my primary pc, its not my only one. And its why I'm on the slow ring rather than the fast one.

 

But I know from last time, that if too much time passes between updating and rolling back, other problems can occur.

 

So I'll have to do this sooner rather than later.

 

 





Life is too short to remove USB safely.




1439 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 316

Subscriber

  Reply # 1523748 1-Apr-2016 09:26
Send private message

nathan: Approximately 2 weeks before a build’s license expires, you will start getting warnings that this build will expire and that you should update to the most recent build.   When the build reaches the license expiration date, the system will automatically reboot every three hours   Windows will stop booting - in the case of 14295 this is on 1 August

 

What is the most recent build? I dont mean what number, but would it be a build ahead or behind what I've got at the moment?





Life is too short to remove USB safely.




1439 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 316

Subscriber

  Reply # 1523777 1-Apr-2016 10:00
Send private message

Does opting out only work if you are NOT running an Eval copy?

 

Here is what happens when I try opting out at the moment.

 

I click STOP INSIDER PREVIEW BUILDS

 

Then STOP RECEIVING INSIDER PREVIEW BUILDS

 

Which gives me this

 

 

 

Which takes me to a webpage saying

 

 

 

So I'm in a bit of a loop I think.





Life is too short to remove USB safely.


13149 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 6170

Trusted
Subscriber

  Reply # 1523783 1-Apr-2016 10:11
Send private message

Back up, reinstall from image ?





Mike
Retired IT Manager. 
The views stated in my posts are my personal views and not that of any other organisation.

 

 Mac user, Windows curser, Chrome OS desired.

 

The great divide is the lies from both sides.

 

 


4977 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 1323

Trusted
Microsoft

  Reply # 1523801 1-Apr-2016 10:47
Send private message

kiwifidget:

 

nathan: Approximately 2 weeks before a build’s license expires, you will start getting warnings that this build will expire and that you should update to the most recent build.   When the build reaches the license expiration date, the system will automatically reboot every three hours   Windows will stop booting - in the case of 14295 this is on 1 August

 

What is the most recent build? I dont mean what number, but would it be a build ahead or behind what I've got at the moment?

 

 

 

 

14295 is the latest

 

there will be a newer build out within the next 2 weeks

 

 




1439 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 316

Subscriber

  Reply # 1523909 1-Apr-2016 12:17
Send private message

nathan:

 

kiwifidget:

 

nathan: Approximately 2 weeks before a build’s license expires, you will start getting warnings that this build will expire and that you should update to the most recent build.   When the build reaches the license expiration date, the system will automatically reboot every three hours   Windows will stop booting - in the case of 14295 this is on 1 August

 

What is the most recent build? I dont mean what number, but would it be a build ahead or behind what I've got at the moment?

 

 

 

 

14295 is the latest

 

there will be a newer build out within the next 2 weeks

 

 

 

 

Sorry if I'm being a bit thick here.

 

I used the Media Creation Tool today to download a new image. What version would that be, as I dont recall it saying that at any point?

 

 





Life is too short to remove USB safely.


Filter this topic showing only the reply marked as answer Create new topic

Twitter »

Follow us to receive Twitter updates when new discussions are posted in our forums:



Follow us to receive Twitter updates when news items and blogs are posted in our frontpage:



Follow us to receive Twitter updates when tech item prices are listed in our price comparison site:



Geekzone Live »

Try automatic live updates from Geekzone directly in your browser, without refreshing the page, with Geekzone Live now.



Are you subscribed to our RSS feed? You can download the latest headlines and summaries from our stories directly to your computer or smartphone by using a feed reader.

Alternatively, you can receive a daily email with Geekzone updates.