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#206212 14-Dec-2016 15:47
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Today I was browsing PB Tech in Chch & I saw two very similar entry level mid tower PCs sitting right next to one another on the shelf.    The cases both had USB 3 ports on top & looked quite convenient, but the cases were from different manufacturers.

 

One system had an AMD cpu 4 gb of ram and was priced at around $455.00 and included Windows 10.     The other one was very similar but had an Intel CPU and no Windows 10, and was priced at around $435.00

 

So, from that very limited bit of research I think the answer might be less than $50.00.     What do you think?


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  #1687770 14-Dec-2016 15:53
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in Russia customer allowed to "return" preinstalled OS.

 

as I remember it's around 15-20 USD for OEM Win7. So I would get same for Win10





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  #1687771 14-Dec-2016 15:53
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Not quite, AMD systems are quite a bit cheaper than Intel.

 

Also would need to know the make/model of the rest of the components as prices vary a lot for mainboards etc, depending on the specs.





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  #1687784 14-Dec-2016 16:22
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It's been well over a decade since I worked for an OEM (bigger than PBTech, but still tiny on an international scale), and from memory it was about $60/license back then for XP Home then. We were big enough that the COA's came on large rolls of stickers and we had custom media etc.





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  #1687796 14-Dec-2016 16:43
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Anyone that knows can't say. Anyone who says doesn't know.

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  #1687802 14-Dec-2016 17:01
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nathan: Anyone that knows can't say. Anyone who says doesn't know.

 

They can say, they just may not :-P

 

 

 

 





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  #1687805 14-Dec-2016 17:08
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looking at the available data it can be deduced that the amount is circa twice as much as half the price.





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  #1687832 14-Dec-2016 18:32
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Well, out school gets a 500 seat licence for w10, 500 seat licence for office 2016 +developer access to "all the server software we can eat" for about NZ$3,500/year so counting an education discount of 60-70% and dividing by $500...

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  #1687843 14-Dec-2016 19:12
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kobiak:

 

in Russia customer allowed to "return" preinstalled OS.

 

as I remember it's around 15-20 USD for OEM Win7. So I would get same for Win10

 

 

 

 

Many thanks for that interesting info Kobiak!    And to everyone else for their replies.     I seem to remember that Microsoft was making it 'zero dollars' for some type of netbooks with very small screens.     The zero dollars deal was based on the screen size I think.     The good thing is that the percentage of money spent on the Windows OS when buying a laptop/PC has come down somewhat.


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  #1687880 14-Dec-2016 19:41
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amiga500:

 

Many thanks for that interesting info Kobiak!    And to everyone else for their replies.     I seem to remember that Microsoft was making it 'zero dollars' for some type of netbooks with very small screens.     The zero dollars deal was based on the screen size I think.     The good thing is that the percentage of money spent on the Windows OS when buying a laptop/PC has come down somewhat.

 

 

Still charge a crapload to upgrade those devices to non home tho. Not bothered on any of mine, just installed VNC and use that for remote over the lan to them.





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  #1689066 15-Dec-2016 08:24
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PhantomNVD: Well, out school gets a 500 seat licence for w10, 500 seat licence for office 2016 +developer access to "all the server software we can eat" for about NZ$3,500/year so counting an education discount of 60-70% and dividing by $500...

 

 

 

Apples with Oranges, and MS's educational volume licensing is amazingly generous. When I first left the tertiary IT world and into private sector enterprise I looked at the price differences on things and was like "okay we won't be getting that.. or that.. or that.. or that" :-P





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  #1689096 15-Dec-2016 09:03
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amiga500:

 

One system had an AMD cpu 4 gb of ram and was priced at around $455.00 and included Windows 10.     The other one was very similar but had an Intel CPU and no Windows 10, and was priced at around $435.00

 

 

Those PC's are completely different, so those prices tell us nothing :-)

 

OEM prices to assemblers (eg PBtech) will be different to major brands (eg HP ) and different to small scale assemblers (ie small shops or
PC tech's buying just a few OEMs)

 

We'll never know what the big brands like HP actually pay. And as mentioned above , it may be cheaper for small low price tablet & notebooks

 

Its easy to find the retail price of Win OEM . Work backwards from there .

 

 

 

 


 
 
 

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  #1689162 15-Dec-2016 09:55
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Lias:

 

PhantomNVD: Well, out school gets a 500 seat licence for w10, 500 seat licence for office 2016 +developer access to "all the server software we can eat" for about NZ$3,500/year so counting an education discount of 60-70% and dividing by $500...

 

 

 

Apples with Oranges, and MS's educational volume licensing is amazingly generous. When I first left the tertiary IT world and into private sector enterprise I looked at the price differences on things and was like "okay we won't be getting that.. or that.. or that.. or that" :-P

 

 

 

 

I believe they are also Upgrade licenses not OEM licenses

 

Also in the math above, you're forgetting to * by the number of years your using it for

 

 


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