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# 20928 10-Apr-2008 09:27
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Many of you might know Internet Explorer 8 is being released in full standards mode.

I have an opportunity to provide your feedback to the Microsoft team - but only a couple of days so this need to be quick.

I am looking for your feedback in those topics:

- what do you think of this decision?
- what is the impact you think this will have on your customer or developer experience?
- any recommendations on how to make developers aware of this?

I understand Microsoft is planning to contact some tech websites around the world, to distribute information about these changes, FAQs and other material. This is related to the third question above. Do you see this as an effective way of doing it?

Anything else I forgot?




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  # 122482 10-Apr-2008 10:13
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As a web developer, I welcome the adoption of full standards mode. Sure it will break a lot of websites that "optimised" for IE, and even some of the patched-job to get it working in old IE5/6/7 mode.

I noticed that our website (at my workplace) doesn't display as we expected from what Safari/Opera/Firefox. But my workplace's stupid IT upgrade policy really killed the development here as we have not even allowed the rollout of IE7.

Anyhow, all the sites we produced are standards compliant and graceful-degradation for IE.

One thing that I do like to see with IE8 is, allow IE7 mode WITHOUT having to relaunching the browser. Why can't it be a dynamic rendering engine, or virtualise the IE7 rendering process in its own little bubble?




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  # 122492 10-Apr-2008 11:09
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Oh. In addition to my earlier comment. I think MS should make use of their "Yellow Infobar" approach to notify the site visitors that if the site is not display as expected or looks weird, then "click here to enable IE7 mode" and dynamically switch to compatible mode WITHOUT restart the browser.

To further a courtesy act, IE8 could look up for site owner information and offer a notification to let them know that it is currently not displaying in standards mode (in IE8) and offer some development documentation to help making it IE8/Standards compatible. Whether this is done through DNS domain owner lookup or make use of META tag etc, I don't know, but surely is a courtesy approach to remind the site owner to update and follow the trend.




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