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Topic # 27318 22-Oct-2008 02:27
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Does anyone know if this will ever be sold in NZ?




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  Reply # 172686 22-Oct-2008 08:22
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  Reply # 172695 22-Oct-2008 09:32
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Thanks; my thread was a follow-up.  Can't understand why HP won't sell it here - I think they'd be surprised at sales.




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  Reply # 172713 22-Oct-2008 10:32
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I doubt they'd get the sales they need to make it viable.

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Reply # 172717 22-Oct-2008 10:40
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It is a seriously cool hardware - but I think it's limited in expansion? I have an old P4 HT (used to be my desktop) here and added a secod USB 2.0 PCI card. I have five 500GB USB drives attached, plus one 160GB internal. I should really add a very large internal one, and could seriously think of replacing those five 500GB with two or three 1TB instead, to make things neater.

I am running 3GB RAM on this box, and it's plenty enough for casual use plus the virtual machines I used to run on it with Virtual Server (now I've moved most of those machines to a datacentre).

Believe it or not, I was even thinking of hosting my Windows Home Server on the datacenter as well... Who knows? TelstraClear cable is fast enough, but would just need a bit more data allowance to make it viable and fun to use.

"Oh yes, all my Home Server data is stored in an underground, nuclear-proof, facility"...





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  Reply # 172719 22-Oct-2008 10:47
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freitasm:

"Oh yes, all my Home Server data is stored in an underground, nuclear-proof, facility"...



^^now that's a true geek right there.  bravo!



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  Reply # 172741 22-Oct-2008 12:04
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I'm currently running WHS on a Dell SC440 server.  But this is limited to 2 internal HDDs, although I'm sure that I could add at least 1 more without too much trouble.  But the MediaSmart server looks like the perfect WHS box - small, quiet and room for 4 internal drives.  Try finding a mATX case that can take 4 internal HDDs!





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  Reply # 172761 22-Oct-2008 13:08
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freitasm: It is a seriously cool hardware - but I think it's limited in expansion? I have an old P4 HT (used to be my desktop) here and added a secod USB 2.0 PCI card. I have five 500GB USB drives attached, plus one 160GB internal. I should really add a very large internal one, and could seriously think of replacing those five 500GB with two or three 1TB instead, to make things neater.

I am running 3GB RAM on this box, and it's plenty enough for casual use plus the virtual machines I used to run on it with Virtual Server (now I've moved most of those machines to a datacentre).

Believe it or not, I was even thinking of hosting my Windows Home Server on the datacenter as well... Who knows? TelstraClear cable is fast enough, but would just need a bit more data allowance to make it viable and fun to use.

"Oh yes, all my Home Server data is stored in an underground, nuclear-proof, facility"...



I think there is a major market being miss by all of the current home server cases and machines out there and that is the expansion market. If I could find a home server that could fit 8 - 12 disk in I would buy it and not worry about building my own. I like home server for the fact it is so expandable andwith the right case this is so easily done.

I have a Coolermaster Centurion 590 case which has 12 x 5 1/4 drive bays and 3 x 120mm silent fans available through drive caddy options. I have 6 fill with 4.86TB of storage in my lounge and it can not be heard. It runs on a Q6600 too and only used 133watts most of the time which is a lot less than the old system using 175-200watts and it was single core.

4 x vm's running on it and still only using 2GB of ram.

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  Reply # 172763 22-Oct-2008 13:20
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I have a Coolermaster Centurion 590 case which has 12 x 5 1/4 drive bays and 3 x 120mm silent fans available through drive caddy options. I have 6 fill with 4.86TB of storage in my lounge and it can not be heard. It runs on a Q6600 too and only used 133watts most of the time which is a lot less than the old system using 175-200watts and it was single core.


Sounds like an excellent case for only $160!



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  Reply # 172777 22-Oct-2008 14:26
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I have a Coolermaster Centurion 590 case which has 12 x 5 1/4 drive bays and 3 x 120mm silent fans available through drive caddy options. I have 6 fill with 4.86TB of storage in my lounge and it can not be heard. It runs on a Q6600 too and only used 133watts most of the time which is a lot less than the old system using 175-200watts and it was single core.


Sounds like an excellent case for only $160!

Agreed, but I don't want a big case.

The Dell SC440 has a dual core Xenon, SATA RAID 1 and only uses 70W!  But it's really limited as far as expansion goes - I guess Dell want you to buy one of their external storage boxes, rather than stuffing it in the server.




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  Reply # 172858 22-Oct-2008 18:52
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w2krules: Does anyone know if this will ever be sold in NZ?


IMHO just build a box with the specs you want and load the OS.

I have done this and am very happy with the end result.

Happy to share specs and any installation experiences if you wish.

Cheers, Paul.

PS...I like this OS and have just begun to play with all the cool add-ins you can install to it.

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freitasm:

"Oh yes, all my Home Server data is stored in an underground, nuclear-proof, facility"...



I saw a documentary on this place a few months ago - very cool. Smile



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  Reply # 172906 22-Oct-2008 22:11
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paul151:
IMHO just build a box with the specs you want and load the OS.

I have done this and am very happy with the end result.

Happy to share specs and any installation experiences if you wish.

Cheers, Paul.

PS...I like this OS and have just begun to play with all the cool add-ins you can install to it.


That would be great thanks.  The SC440 was not intended to have WHS installed, but I trialled the OS on it, and was most impressed.  IMO one of Microsft's better efforts, despite the data corruption bug.

I'm currently running WHS on a RAID 1 mirror (2 x 750 MB drives), but I may change this.  My thinking now is to have the system installed on a small RAID 1 array (say 250 MB), but then let WHS manage the big drives.  The one weakness of WHS is what happens if you lose the HDD that has the system installed, and running mirrored drives should reduce the chance of this happening.




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w2krules:
That would be great thanks.  The SC440 was not intended to have WHS installed, but I trialled the OS on it, and was most impressed.  IMO one of Microsft's better efforts, despite the data corruption bug.

I'm currently running WHS on a RAID 1 mirror (2 x 750 MB drives), but I may change this.  My thinking now is to have the system installed on a small RAID 1 array (say 250 MB), but then let WHS manage the big drives.  The one weakness of WHS is what happens if you lose the HDD that has the system installed, and running mirrored drives should reduce the chance of this happening.


The data corruption bug has been fixed in powerpack one. This self installs after the first auto update is initiated once you have installed the os from the dvd. There are some other fixes in the powerpack if you want more on this I've included a link for you.

My box has 2 x 500 MB drives and 1 x 320 MB drive all running SATA2 and using the os for mirroring files between drives.

I have 2 gig of ram for some wiggle room to do a few extra things I'm planning and run a lower spec intel dual core cpu.

I'll dig out the full specs for you and post them up here just as a reference. I remember with the mobo I was fixed in my desire to have at least 4 x sata on board and room for 1 x ide (still have a few of these drives about which I plan to add to the pool)

I've been running the 'lights out' app for a few weeks now and have just about got it running as I wish. I like the fact the whs is not running 24/7 but ready when I want it.

Using the box to run a webserver is not greatly of interest but Mauricio has me interested in My Movies so I may try this soon

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Reply # 173205 23-Oct-2008 22:03
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w2krules: I'm currently running WHS on a RAID 1 mirror (2 x 750 MB drives), but I may change this.  My thinking now is to have the system installed on a small RAID 1 array (say 250 MB), but then let WHS manage the big drives.  The one weakness of WHS is what happens if you lose the HDD that has the system installed, and running mirrored drives should reduce the chance of this happening.


If you lose the system drive you just leave the storage drives plugged in, and run an OS install with the recovery option (I can't remember the exact name). This will reinstall the OS and rebuild the file tables from the contents in the drives.






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  Reply # 173217 23-Oct-2008 23:08
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freitasm:
If you lose the system drive you just leave the storage drives plugged in, and run an OS install with the recovery option (I can't remember the exact name). This will reinstall the OS and rebuild the file tables from the contents in the drives.

Understood, but I would like a little more fault tolerance - not a comfortable feeling when a single drive failure can take down a server.  But I really like the way WHS manages its storage.  Maybe something for Microsoft to consider for version 2?




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