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#288246 16-Jun-2021 09:32

Right. So "Windows 10 is the last Windows" was never a thing. Even "Windows-as-a-service" wasn't it really.

Lots of Windows 11 information in the following pages:

Windows 11 First Impressions - Thurrott.com

Windows 11: A Few More Screenshots - Thurrott.com

Windows 11: A Few More Observations - Thurrott.com

Windows 11: Clean Install - Thurrott.com

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#2729452 16-Jun-2021 09:38

So much for "biggest ever upgrade" or whatever it was that Nadella said a few weeks ago...

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#2729470 16-Jun-2021 10:11

Random thought. Be cool if the start menu could be switched to a right click on an empty part of the screen. Double click brings up that default right click menu.

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#2729491 16-Jun-2021 10:27

Big question is will this be a free upgrade like Mac OS is?

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#2729499 16-Jun-2021 10:36

Kind of looks similar to Enightment desktop in Linux

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#2729508 16-Jun-2021 10:43

There is a reason I don't have a Mac OS device, now even my Windows Devices look like that moving forward. Awesome....

All the money they have and that's the best they could do.

Windows 10 made more clicks to do simple things, more common, why oh why can't they make change to improve workflow...

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#2729509 16-Jun-2021 10:45

Behodar:

So much for "biggest ever upgrade" or whatever it was that Nadella said a few weeks ago...

Never really has been since they jumped the consumer OS to the NT kernel with the 98SE-> XP push. Even the much beloved Windows 7 was basically Vista SP3...

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#2729512 16-Jun-2021 10:47

gbwelly:

Never really has been since they jumped the consumer OS to the NT kernel with the 98SE-> XP push. Even the much beloved Windows 7 was basically Vista SP3...

I strong disagree with this statement.

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#2729515 16-Jun-2021 10:49

networkn:

gbwelly:

Never really has been since they jumped the consumer OS to the NT kernel with the 98SE-> XP push. Even the much beloved Windows 7 was basically Vista SP3...

I strong disagree with this statement.

Which part of it?

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#2729518 16-Jun-2021 10:53

gbwelly:

Which part of it?

That W7 was Vista SP3.

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#2729537 16-Jun-2021 11:00

W11 just looks like W10 with a new paint job. Any major under the hood info ?!?! im sure if we all dig deep enough we can find older and older UI elements and functions.

Will be interesting to see if MS offer this as a free upgrade like 7/8-> 10 to try and keep as many as possible on the same supported version ..Version being 6-8 or 10 versions of windows 10 right now ....

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#2729538 16-Jun-2021 11:00

networkn:

That W7 was Vista SP3.

I'll die on this hill. Windows 7 was 6.1 Vista was 6.0. Vista got so much hate that even though most of the issues were resolved by SP2, and consumer hardware had caught up to actually run it, MS had to dump the brand. Call it 7, stick a humming bird on it, tweak the aero theme and send it.

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#2729541 16-Jun-2021 11:03

gbwelly:

networkn:

That W7 was Vista SP3.

I'll die on this hill. Windows 7 was 6.1 Vista was 6.0. Vista got so much hate that even though most of the issues were resolved by SP2, and consumer hardware had caught up to actually run it, MS had to dump the brand. Call it 7, stick a humming bird on it, tweak the aero theme and send it.

Vista was Win 2008 and 7 was 2012 in the enterprise world ... the cores of the two OS did have enough different and not just a spit and polish, so would assume Vista to 7 would have a far amount of under the hood changes ?

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#2729542 16-Jun-2021 11:05

sampler:

Vista was Win 2008 and 7 was 2012 in the enterprise world ... the cores of the two OS did have enough different and not just a spit and polish, so would assume Vista to 7 would have a far amount of under the hood changes ?

No. Vista's server equivalent was 2008, Windows 7's was 2008 R2.

2012 was the server companion for Windows 8.0. And in the same fashion 2012 R2 didn't suck and was the companion for Windows 8.1 which also didn't suck but died due to how rubbish 8.0 was.

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#2729544 16-Jun-2021 11:08

gbwelly:

I'll die on this hill. Windows 7 was 6.1 Vista was 6.0. Vista got so much hate that even though most of the issues were resolved by SP2, and consumer hardware had caught up to actually run it, MS had to dump the brand. Call it 7, stick a humming bird on it, tweak the aero theme and send it.

As someone who was good friends with someone on the core team at the time, the changes were *massive*. I could go into quite a lot of detail, but really, but, as you've stated, you aren't prepared to change your opinion, so that saves us both some trouble.

Vista was at least a fair amount a failure due to the fact that for years MS had given manufacturers code to base drivers off and then last minute had told them the code had changed significantly, costing massive re-development costs. MS warned manufacturers that drivers were going to work very differently in Vista, but they ignored that for too long. Couple this with the fact Intel had *huge* hardware inventory stockpiled and insisted MS 'certify' that hardware as Vista compatible etc, when it clearly wasn't up to the significant extra load that Vista required, over XP.

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#2729641 16-Jun-2021 13:48

Hmm... requires internet connection to install.... do we trust it ? :D

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