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#289523 10-Sep-2021 15:58

I have been a Windows 'Insider' for 7 years and the journey has been fun but my current modest Dell Optiplex 9020 is going to have to be replaced if I want to continue with win 11 or I will need to reinstall win 10 from scratch.

Pondered what to do but decided I would like to keep with win 11 and so that means I need a new computer.

Been a long time since I built one from scratch so I am out of touch, but I could still do it. I have asked PBTech for hardware suggestions, and I might just tell them to build it! The biggest cost item is the CPU it seems.

Anyway, stuff is still cheap compared with what we paid in the early days!

Anyone done a new comp, or thinking of it, to meet win 11 restrictions? Please, no moaning or griping - it is what it is! We have a choice to stick with 10.

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#2776133 10-Sep-2021 16:26

DTC have built a couple of computers for me. The build costs $60 and I couldn't get it done better for twice that myself in terms of my time. Obviously, it depends if you are doing it yourself for enjoyment or not.

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#2776143 10-Sep-2021 17:13

Have a look at some of the ex-lease offerings out there, few of the sites I've seen have some HP and Dell workstations with Gen 8 CPUs (Intel)

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#2776166 10-Sep-2021 18:37

Have you upgraded to an SSD?

I have a PC that is now around 6 years old.

I upgraded it to an SSD and installed Windows 10 on it a couple of years ago.

It absolutely flies compared to the original setup of Windows 7 and a conventional HDD.

SSD drives are really cheap now.

There are still 4 years of official support for Windows 10.

EDIT: Are you sure it wont run windows 11:https://www.dell.com/community/Optiplex-Desktops/TPM-2-0-for-Optiplex-9020/td-p/7924985

Have you run whynotwin11 on it? The MS tool was apparently pretty bad.

https://github.com/rcmaehl/WhyNotWin11

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#2776174 10-Sep-2021 18:53

robjg63:

Have you upgraded to an SSD?

I have a PC that is now around 6 years old.

I upgraded it to an SSD and installed Windows 10 on it a couple of years ago.

It absolutely flies compared to the original setup of Windows 7 and a conventional HDD.

SSD drives are really cheap now.

There are still 4 years of official support for Windows 10.

EDIT: Are you sure it wont run windows 11:https://www.dell.com/community/Optiplex-Desktops/TPM-2-0-for-Optiplex-9020/td-p/7924985

Have you run whynotwin11 on it? The MS tool was apparently pretty bad.

https://github.com/rcmaehl/WhyNotWin11

The Optiplex 9020 uses Gen 4 Intel CPUs, Windows 11 needs Gen 8 and above.

Going by the latest blogs/youtube clips I've seen it looks like it'll be possible to install it but it won't receive updates

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#2776185 10-Sep-2021 19:09

Agree, it wont be support, so best to upgrade if you want to be on Win 11, otherwise as noted above, there's plenty more life left in Windows 10.

Now is not at all a good time to be buying a new PC (Prices are very high), so wouldn't suggest you buy it just for windows 11.

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#2776282 11-Sep-2021 08:56

I am keen on ex-lease Dell/HP's - have bought several for me and friends. And, yes, they all come with SSDs. Great value, but haven't seen any yet with 8th gen cpu. Perhaps I need to do more browsing! But, there won't be many is my bet.

Cheers and thanks for replies.

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#2776324 11-Sep-2021 11:09

Thanks to @DjShadow I got searching more ex-lease sites and found a Dell Optiplex 3060 SFF with 8th gen I5 8500 and TPM2.0!! This model and the I5 are on the win 11 lists.

Price was good - $699 reduced from $1,199. A lot cheaper than building one and nice size for my desk.

Comes with 128GB NVMe and 500GB HDD plus two video ports that I need. Shuffle the 9020 to my wife and away I go!

So, really chuffed.

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#2776399 11-Sep-2021 15:00

DjShadow:

robjg63:

Have you upgraded to an SSD?

I have a PC that is now around 6 years old.

I upgraded it to an SSD and installed Windows 10 on it a couple of years ago.

It absolutely flies compared to the original setup of Windows 7 and a conventional HDD.

SSD drives are really cheap now.

There are still 4 years of official support for Windows 10.

EDIT: Are you sure it wont run windows 11:https://www.dell.com/community/Optiplex-Desktops/TPM-2-0-for-Optiplex-9020/td-p/7924985

Have you run whynotwin11 on it? The MS tool was apparently pretty bad.

https://github.com/rcmaehl/WhyNotWin11

The Optiplex 9020 uses Gen 4 Intel CPUs, Windows 11 needs Gen 8 and above.

Going by the latest blogs/youtube clips I've seen it looks like it'll be possible to install it but it won't receive updates

You will receive updates to Win 11 but not any feature updates. I'm in that situation with an old 10 year old PC that I installed Win 11 on and have been booted out of the Insider Program but am still receiving updates.

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#2776413 11-Sep-2021 15:49

Windows 11 is going to kill the second hand PC market for those wanting to run Windows.......

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#2776496 11-Sep-2021 18:56

If anyone wants to go on with win 11 I can point you to the seller I used. There are 5 left!!

At own risk, of course!! But will confirm it's win 11 compatibility when it arrives.

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#2776497 11-Sep-2021 19:00

Not really.

Anything that doesn't run Windows 11, shouldn't really be entering the second hand market (8th gen is now 4 years old), it should already be second hand..

Windows 10 is supported (currently until 2024), so they are supported for a decent amount of life.

@xpd for example the "Gaming" PC you're selling is now 7-8 years old (noting you're now selling it third hand).

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#2776561 11-Sep-2021 20:16

mentalinc:

Not really.

Anything that doesn't run Windows 11, shouldn't really be entering the second hand market (8th gen is now 4 years old), and should be already there or about to be.

Windows 10 is supported (currently until 2024), so they are supported for a decent amount of life.

The "Gaming" PC you're selling is now 7-8 years old (noting you're now selling it third hand).

I really have no idea what you are trying to say there. Have another read.

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#2776569 11-Sep-2021 20:45

mentalinc:

Not really.

Anything that doesn't run Windows 11, shouldn't really be entering the second hand market (8th gen is now 4 years old), and should be already there or about to be.

Windows 10 is supported (currently until 2024), so they are supported for a decent amount of life.

The "Gaming" PC you're selling is now 7-8 years old (noting you're now selling it third hand).

Mine ? The CPU and case and PSU are second hand (from reputable sources), the rest was purchased new.

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#2776570 11-Sep-2021 20:45

linw:

mentalinc:

Not really.

Anything that doesn't run Windows 11, shouldn't really be entering the second hand market (8th gen is now 4 years old), and should be already there or about to be.

Windows 10 is supported (currently until 2024), so they are supported for a decent amount of life.

The "Gaming" PC you're selling is now 7-8 years old (noting you're now selling it third hand).

I really have no idea what you are trying to say there. Have another read.

Hes referring to my post :)

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#2776571 11-Sep-2021 20:46

and cleaned up

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