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#295995 13-May-2022 09:15

I use Windows Live Mail as a client for popmail. This meets my needs well and I am not overly concerned about security as my mail usage is pretty low key. However, my popmail servers are now all removing support for older TLS versions and Live Mail won't work much longer.

Can anyone recommend an email client, preferably free, that works with TLS 1.2 or higher? Or maybe a hack that would enable Live Mail to work with it? I don't need anything fancy, just something that can handle small amounts of mail from a couple servers. I am old and cranky and I just want something that works the same way it always has!

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#2913255 13-May-2022 09:20

What OS are you using? Windows 10 has the native Mail app.

My worry is that you should backup your emails if not using a cloud service - heck, even if using a cloud service, I have Office and Google Workspaces backups on my Synology NAS.

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#2913260 13-May-2022 09:25

I am using Win 10. Don't know anything about its mail app but will look into that. Thanks for the tip. Why do I need email backup? I just keep them on my computer. Like I said, ideally I would like something that works in the way I am used to. No app, no cloud, just a regular old-fashioned popmail client.

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#2913262 13-May-2022 09:29

What email service do you use?

A backup would be useful if you are using a POP/SMTP service and emails are deleted from the server once downloaded. In this case if you have the emails on your computer only, there's a risk they could be lost if the computer crashes or there's a problem with the storage.

Cloud-based services (like Outlook, Office, Google Workspace and others) keep the originals on their servers but there's still a risk. That's why I have a backup on my NAS anyway.

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#2913266 13-May-2022 09:38

My main email service is GMX. I also have Gmail as a backup and Orcon from a previous subscription that I still use for specific purposes. My email usage is mostly notifications from Geekzone and personal communications. Nothing related to any kind of financial or business activity. If all my mails suddenly disappeared, it would be an inconvenience but not a major tragedy. My life really is very simple in my old age and I would really like to keep it that way. I understand the need for security and backups, but those just don't apply to me in my current life phase and I really wish these providers wouldn't all assume they do.

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#2913276 13-May-2022 10:09

Rikkitic:

If all my mails suddenly disappeared, it would be an inconvenience but not a major tragedy.

That answers the question. In this case, try the built-in Windows 10 Mail app.

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#2913301 13-May-2022 10:42

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That answers the question. In this case, try the built-in Windows 10 Mail app.

Will do. Thanks again for the help. I just want to get this working in the simplest way possible.

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#2913303 13-May-2022 10:56

Thunderbird Email is what I use. Though I mostly use the web interface. I use the free MailStore Home for archiving and backing up email.

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#2913376 13-May-2022 11:52

I tried Thunderbird in the past but found it overkill for my use case. I will certainly try again, though. I just want something that works like what I am already used to. I don't need high security, added features, whiz bang apps cloud storage or anything like that.

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#2913495 13-May-2022 13:03

Rikkitic:

My main email service is GMX. I also have Gmail as a backup and Orcon from a previous subscription that I still use for specific purposes. My email usage is mostly notifications from Geekzone and personal communications. Nothing related to any kind of financial or business activity. If all my mails suddenly disappeared, it would be an inconvenience but not a major tragedy. My life really is very simple in my old age and I would really like to keep it that way. I understand the need for security and backups, but those just don't apply to me in my current life phase and I really wish these providers wouldn't all assume they do.

all those services use imap

Why not switch to that?

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#2913502 13-May-2022 13:23

Rikkitic:

... I also have Gmail as a backup ....

Just so you know, google is turning off less secure sign in at the end of the month, so most of the client that has been posted will stop working for Gmail - the client needs OAuth for it to work

https://support.google.com/accounts/answer/6010255?hl=en

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#2913534 13-May-2022 13:48

bagheera:

Just so you know, google is turning off less secure sign in at the end of the month, so most of the client that has been posted will stop working for Gmail - the client needs OAuth for it to work

That's not quite correct. They will continue to work if you use the App Passwords feature.

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#2913535 13-May-2022 13:49

farcus:

all those services use imap

Why not switch to that?

Would imap work for this? I don't know much about it but I think the security upgrade applies to any client software.

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#2913537 13-May-2022 13:51

bagheera:

Just so you know, google is turning off less secure sign in at the end of the month, so most of the client that has been posted will stop working for Gmail - the client needs OAuth for it to work

Thanks I have received the Gmail notification. Not too worried about that one but I poll GMX all the time for new mail. I need a client that works with that.

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#2913905 14-May-2022 11:34

@rikkitic would you consider using a browser-based email 'client'? This would require a one-off effort to learn, but the payback is that the user interface remains near constant regardless of future technology changes.

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