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euanandrews

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#34945 1-Jun-2009 16:49

I swear, everytime I reformat and reinstall my system, I learn something new...

This time, I got my abit uGuru programs running...and it does not make for good reading...

The uGuru program, which is used for overclocking (which I have not done) displays system tempertures, fan speeds, voltages, and allows all the settings to be modified...

It is currently displaying a warning, stating my CPU is running at 93 degrees C

Ekkkk...

How worried should I be?

My system has run like this ever since I brought it, with no incident...but this is the first time I have noticed those stats.

Does anyone here have expereince with the uGuru program, and give me hints as to what settings I should change?
Or should I just install another fan?

I should point out, that while my sysem is running fine, if I run uGuru, it shuts down the computer, as it has 95 degrees C set for automatic computer shutdown (to prevent hardware damage I assume)

Any advice welcome

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#220459 1-Jun-2009 16:54

I should note as well, my system stats can be found in my signiture, and I also run a stock Intel fan, which came with the CPU.

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#220465 1-Jun-2009 17:12

Thats pretty high. Maybe your thermal paste was applied wrong (too much, too little, not spread out well, or not applied), or your heatsink might be caked in dust, or your fan may be sub-par?

I would be uncomfortable with my CPU temp being that high all the time.

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#220468 1-Jun-2009 17:33

93 degrees is Dangerously High, the average shutdown temp is in the 70's. I would check your heatsink isnt fulled up with dust and the fan is spinning correctly if both are ok I would put new themeral grease on the cpu

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#220469 1-Jun-2009 17:39

Whoa.. That is extremely high. Maybe uGuru is displaying temps in Farenheit, that would put temps at about 33c which is more a more 'normal' temp. Try another temperature monitor like Core Temp (no installation required), also check temps in the bios and check Intel Speed Stepping (or its abit equivalent) is enabled. It could also be that one or more of the push in pins on the heatsink need to be pushed fully home. Nice system btw.

Cheers ;-)

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#220472 1-Jun-2009 17:45

Ok...I will take a look at the heatsink and fan...see if I see any issues, otherwise might take it to a pro to look at and apply the thermal paste again, as I did that when I built this PC, and I may not have done it correctly, my first time (thermal paster vigin!)

I am also going to look into the uGuru settings, and see where I can up the fan speeds, to assist cooling...but being a HTPC, I do not want to compromise noise too much.

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#220473 1-Jun-2009 17:47

take a look in the bios. that should tell a more accurate reading

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#220515 1-Jun-2009 19:43

Run Core Temp, that repored the temp of each individual core of my quad core, at 35, 41, 35, 34 degrees C....

Running CPUID Hardware Monitor...
It reports using Intel reporting a simular result for each core...
It also reports using abit uGuru a CPU temp of 93 degrees C...
And it reports using Winbond a CPU temp of 98 degrees C

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#220517 1-Jun-2009 19:45

hardware monitor results found here

DrGr33n

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#220587 1-Jun-2009 21:17

The temperatures that Core Temp gave look more like what you should be getting. Are you using the latest version of uGuru and the latest bios? Apparently the latest bios for IP35 Pro fixes a temperature bug and adds some 45nm compatibility. I think as long as you have Intel Speed Stepping (or its abit equivalent) enabled in the bios and the heatsink isn't "hot" to the touch your pretty safe. Congrats on your 1000th post.......

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#220600 1-Jun-2009 21:25

Use CoreTemp.
Many older (including motherboard manufacturers utilities) are completely incorrect. Go by coretemps measurements, nothing else.

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#220655 1-Jun-2009 23:09

DrGr33n: The temperatures that Core Temp gave look more like what you should be getting. Are you using the latest version of uGuru and the latest bios? Apparently the latest bios for IP35 Pro fixes a temperature bug and adds some 45nm compatibility. I think as long as you have Intel Speed Stepping (or its abit equivalent) enabled in the bios and the heatsink isn't "hot" to the touch your pretty safe. Congrats on your 1000th post.......

Cheers ;-)

How do I update the Bios?

While I am reasonably confident tinkering, making mistakes and fixing them, learning...I have just got this system mint, having ripped out Vista and running just 7 now...

I have downloaded the laest Bios from abit, but the 'RUNME' batch file comes up with a message saying do not run this within Windows....so where and how do I run it?

There is a AWDFLASH.exe file, but thought it safer to ask here first.

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#220672 2-Jun-2009 00:42

Ideally, you would create a DOS floppy boot disk and copy AWDFLASH.exe file along with a copy of your new bios to the floppy, then boot up using the boot disk. However, I see you don't have a FDD on your HTPC :)

Another option, is to create a USB boot disk using "HP USB Disk Storage Format Tool" and put a copy of your bios and AWDFLASH.exe on to it.

Flashing the bios has it's risks, so it would pay to check your motherboard user manual for the 'exact procedure'. That being said.. It is pretty straight forward.

You may get lucky and find an Abit/AWD tool to flash from within Windows like some of the newer motherboards.

Cheers ;-)

Edit: I came across this when I was looking for a bios for my HD4890. Its a much more detailed description for flashing your board specifically...

ttp://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=2397392&postcount=2023

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#221689 4-Jun-2009 16:28

If your CPU WAS running at 93 degrees, it would have fried by now, and the computer wouldn't work. Best way to tell, is take the side off your case and touch the heatsink - if it burns, your PC is way too hot, if it is comfortable to the touch, no worries. Quite a few of those temperature reading programs get it wrong. I had a PC in the workshop once whose BIOS was mis-reporting the temperature, therefore not letting the computer stay on even though there were no heat issues.

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#222439 7-Jun-2009 13:00

I had a Core 2 Duo laptop hit 100 degrees C once, placing a hand in front of air vent resulted in a burn... :( I think the fan must of stopped, but that was the only time it happened.

Anyway, I would recommend Speedfan, because it not only monitors CPU temps and fans, but also GPU temps. This is the only program I've found that will do everything.

FYI if you're getting temps reported critically high (isn't 92 absolute max for intel CPU's according to intel?) verify by grabbing the heatsink! You'll find our pretty fast if your software is telling the truth...

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#222447 7-Jun-2009 13:51

Those sorts of temps would result in Chernobyl inside your computer!
Intel CPU's throttle down though, as long as its enabled in the BIOS... But even if its disabled, it would slow down rather than fry.

If you're using the stock heatsink, and you haven't removed it and put it back on, it should be fine, and won't actually be getting anywhere near that!

I think TJMax for those is somewhere in the high 80's.

Try running a program called Realtemp. It's pretty good, and tells the temp of the individual cores. If you're still reading really high temps, I'd say its something hardware related not reading right.

Then if you want to bench it to really push the temps up, use LinX. It pushes a CPU a lot more than ORTHOS or other Pi calculating software out there.

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