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xxXStylusXxx

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#44237 25-Oct-2009 13:02
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i want to have xp and linux on my computer currently i am running xp. i have a 100gb hd and have 80gb spare now my problem is there is no unallocated space on my drive to create a new place for linux is there a way to take out 40gb from my hard drive to use for linux?

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bigal_nz
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  #266687 25-Oct-2009 14:51
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Use the gparted live boot cd to resize partitions.

Krisando
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  #266705 25-Oct-2009 17:25
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Yeah gparted, also some Linux distributions has a funny habit of wiping hdds. ;o

 
 
 
 


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  #266835 26-Oct-2009 11:56
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Hi There you could always use something like Partition magic that will do the job for you and it's quite safe too

soleil24
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  #266848 26-Oct-2009 12:55

xxXStylusXxx:  i have a 100gb hd and have 80gb spare


That sounds like you have a single primary partition taking up the whole of the hdd and you're using 20GB of it?

Most Linux distros will want to create at least 2, but sometimes 3 partitions and will have a partitoning function built into the installer.

To make life easier (assuming your hdd is as I describe), the best thing to do is run a defrag on your existing partition (windows "drive") then use gparted to first shrink that partition to 60GB and second to create an extended partition taking up the remaining 40GB.

Now when you install Linux, the partitioner will read the disk layout and should propose to install whatever partitions it needs, using whatever filesystem the distro uses into that extended partition.

e.g. Suse 11.1 will want to create one "swap" partiton and then a "root" and "home" partition using ext3 filesystem, whereas the new Suse 11.2 will use ext4. Fedora doesn't use a separate "home" partition by default - but I always like to set one up anyway. If you know that befroehand you can always create the partitions up front and just point the installer to use them.

The installer process might be smart enough to do all this for you - Suse would but can't comment on Ubuntu (I see from your other post) - must check it out and see what al the fuss is about one day.

As for your other question I would guess Ubuntu uses GRUB (GRand Unified Bootloader) which in simple temrs will give you a menu at startup to choose whether you boot into your shiny new Linux or your trusty old XP. The install process should recognize the pre-existing OS and configure GRUB accordingly. GRUB is a hugely powerful and configurable little utility and you probably shouldn't change any default GRUB proposal until you undertand it.

Not sure which Linux distros would "wipe your hdd" as someone mentioned (unless you try and get creative during the installation without understanding anything!) but it goes without saying that you should make sure any important data is backed up off the mcahine before you start on this.

Most of the current crop of Linux distros pretty much hold your hand through the entire install process and deliver a very useable OS.

Have fun.

IG

soleil24
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  #266853 26-Oct-2009 13:06

xxXstylusXxx

did you read this ?

Looks like Ubuntu really will hold your hand & do it all for you !

xxXStylusXxx

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  #267087 26-Oct-2009 23:19
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yeah soleil24 your right it is one primary partition taking it all up, i ended up using partition magic just because thats what came up first in a google search. now have 40g formated and ready to go, i read up on your link good help thanks, here goes...

snowkiwi
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  #268654 30-Oct-2009 19:13
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How did the Partitioning and Ubuntu dual boot go xxXstylusXxx ?

 
 
 
 


soleil24
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  #268659 30-Oct-2009 19:47

I was wondering the same. OP is either too deleriously happy with new Linux distro...or has totally ****ed his machine & can't post !!

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xxXStylusXxx

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  #269489 3-Nov-2009 01:50
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workd great, installd fine and lets me choose which OS to boot into each time i turn on the computer, also i didnt need to make a new partion for it, its got a built in thing that can do that for me

snowkiwi
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  #269568 3-Nov-2009 11:46
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That sounds promising. Maybe I'll do the xp and ubantu bit first. It may allow me to triple partition, then add win7 to try out too.

I've never used Linux
are printer drivers an issue?

soleil24
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  #269607 3-Nov-2009 13:50

xxXstylusXxx, pleased it all went well for you !

snowkiwi, Linux print sub-system (CUPS) has pretty good support of many printers - whether it's an "issue" depends a lot on the printer and to an extent on the Linux distro you choose. HP unofficially supports Linux through the hplips project.

While Ubuntu will take care of a dual-boot (e.g. with XP) setup for you (in its own way), adding a Win7 triple-boot setup afterwards will take a bit of tweaking, espcially as the new Ubuntu release uses the as-yet unfinished "grub2"

Probably best to post a new thread in the Linux forum for + info on either of those.

IG

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  #269625 3-Nov-2009 14:35
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Thanks soleil24

kulas
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  #270308 5-Nov-2009 12:27
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Download Linux Mint 7 (Gloria) ISO from their site and burn. This should be a live cd.

Defrag and backup your XP hd.

Set boot first device to CD/DVD in Bios. Boot Linux Mint Live CD.

Wait until OS fully loads. Notice on desktop icon for Install. Click and install.

This will take you to GParted and your HD partitions will show. Be sure you know what your are doing!
Windows partition are Fat32 and NTFS. Linux partition can be ext2, ext3 and ext4.

Follow instruction from the setup. Note Linux will recommend a Swap Partition though not required.

Install should be smooth and painless. Enjoy Linux Mint 7 (Gloria).


FOR PARTITION UNDER WINDOWS XP.

You can create new partition under Windows. Just go to Control Panel, Administrative Tools and choose Computer Management.

Under Computer Management windows, on the left panel choose Storage (down) and the under it Disk Management. Free some space and make new partition.


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  #278970 3-Dec-2009 10:34
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Hmm..can you have windows vista home premium and XP or 2000 pro on same computer (need older version to run some softwear which is not supported in vista?) If possible..then how do I go about doing this?
Seems like have to partition etc as above but is vista bit smarter or easier way of going around doing it or any programmes you can download which makes it easier. Any help would be appreciated

kulas
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  #278993 3-Dec-2009 11:56
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Hi, i'll try to answer this one as best as i can.

It seems best option for you as to not have much problem is to partition your hard drive so as not to complicate things. That if you have heaps of extra space. You can have windows partition as described (see post). Have heard, windows 7 disk management is good but have not tried it!

Install winXP, then Vista, then win7 in that order in separate partitions. This should recognize your older windows install. (win7 as your main OS)

If it won't recognize then. Download EasyBCD. This should fix your set-up.

If you would like to tinker you can play around with GRUB and GParted. Google and you shall find heaps of info as to how to use this tools.

If your problem with programs under winXP not running, win7 should be able to run these programs. ( have not tested it with games though - not a gamer).

Good luck!

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