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Topic # 6624 10-Feb-2006 09:31
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Really, I don't understand this U.S. Examines Vista Antitrust Complaints:

"In papers filed with U.S. District Judge Colleen Kollar-Kotelly, federal and state officials said that they'd received one complaint -- the source was unnamed -- about Vista's "Welcome Center," a new interface that appears when users start the PC for the first time. The Welcome Center not only presents setup options, but also commercial offers from partners and/or the hardware maker."

IIRC we never hear anyone complaining about Apple bundling their own software (Mac OS X, iSync, iCal, iTunes, iPhoto, QuickTime) with their own hardware, leaving the rest for the smaller after market in accessories.

On the other hand Microsoft is EvilTM seems to always be all the rage, even though their software run on a platform supported by thousands of different hardware vendors in all levels (motherboards, CPUs, memory, software, drivers, accessories).

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Reply # 28141 10-Feb-2006 10:56
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I think you will find that it only seems to take one anonymous complaint about something benign to begin a chain of knee jerk reactions through an entire company.. Speaking from experience of course. Sigh.

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Reply # 28182 10-Feb-2006 17:06
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Will it ever end

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Reply # 28184 10-Feb-2006 18:36
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I think you'll find that in regard to Macs, the Ilife software is only bundled with the new computer or on the System disk. Think of it like what HP or Dell does when they put apps on their computers.

With the exception of Isync, Itunes, Ical, and Quicktime I think you'll find no iLife apps on the Mac OS 10.3/10.4 CD's - well that was the case for me.

Other programs that come with the OS - Safari, Mail etc generally can be removed easily enough. As for the apps, you can easily remove them. In fact, I only I have Iphoto and Itunes installed currently from the iLife 06 collection.

I think Quicktime is the only app which may cause problems - I remember a friend replacing his quicktime version in 10.3 with an older one and it broke quite a lot of things.

The difference with Windows is that Internet Explorer, Outlook Express, Windows Media Player, Windows Movie maker etc come with Windows but provide no means of easily removing them from the system, which is my beef with the OS. I don't care personally whether IE & co is supplied with Windows but give the option to remove them (and just leave the rendering engine in for apps that need it).

In older versions of Windows such as Windows 98 you could run 98lite which allowed a degree of freedom from bundled components (ie. you could rip IE completely out and have a 95 shell - very fast, rip the IE app out and just have the rendering engine in etc).

Going back on topic, I have mixed feelings about Microsoft offering an antivirus/antispyware. On one hand its great that they are and it will hopefully offer better competition to other providers.... on the other they made the software - couldn't they spend more time making patches that secure the operating system from these threats in the first place?

Slashfud were having a discussion about it and the comparsions with gangs offering stores 'protection' for money came up quite often - note that this is not my personal opinion.

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