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#72154 21-Nov-2010 23:27
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Just realized something has been sending links from my yahoo to all my contacts. Even found unsent spam in my drafts folder!!!

So what's the more like cause:

1) random password obtained by bots
2) spyware infiltrating my avast or avg protected systems (free versions)
3) iPhone infiltrated
4) public computers - from work to libraries
5) gave my login details to facebook (like when I looked for friends by keying in my email details) *note I do not use any apps nor allow info sharing
6) etc???


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  #407468 21-Nov-2010 23:54
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how secure is your password?



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  #407473 22-Nov-2010 00:40
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Well we'd just be guessing so it won't help.

What you should do now is:

1: Ensure your machines are secure (scan with malwarebytes etc)

2: Change all your passwords for everything ensuring you use high quality secure passwords and making sure you use a different password for each site (use an application like KeePass to manage them if need be)

3: Contact Yahoo support about the account be compromised they might be able to investigate.

4: Never use a http site (non https) or connect to your email without using SSL/TLS on a public/shared wifi or lan network. Learn to use a VPN for better security.




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  #407481 22-Nov-2010 00:58
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When using Library Computers it's best to reset them before leaving, since once you do that all the passwords / etc is all wiped.

Or use a laptop with the 100's of others on the Wifi Network.




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  #407536 22-Nov-2010 09:40
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This is really common at the moment ("I just bought a Mac Book Pro/iPhone/etc from this great site", right?). I probably see one from a customer or friend once every week or so.

Have been wondering about the way these people are getting hacked - seems to be focussed on Yahoo! / Xtra customers - could be faked login screens, sharing account creds, weak passwords, wireless sniffing on HTTP instead of HTTPS, brute force attacks on another channel (eg bruteforce against Xtra POP3).

Really doesn't matter what the attack vector used on you was, your best response is to take the experience as an opportunity to learn more about keeping your account safe. It might have been any of the above suggestions, and you won't be any safer closing off just one option, you'll just think you are.

(Do you use Yahoo! Messenger? It would presumably use your email account details for login too? Another window for sniffing or bruting a password there.)

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  #407552 22-Nov-2010 10:08
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nakedmolerat: mild-mod secure

ragnor: how do you use https sites? do i type https instead of http for all my email? for example geekzone is shown as http and not https? sorry confused - am going to google soon

mmurf/c71931f: hmm actually thinking about it now i only accessed 3 library computers 3 weeks after the date shown on the unsent draft mails. but the mails were only sent after i went onto the lib computers ... weird! malwarebytes negative

xurizaemon: don't use yahoo messenger. interesting to know the attacks are on yahoo/xtra. maybe there's a security lapse. maybe i should delete the account and use gmail only!

thanks guys i think i'm gonna research how to use https ...

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  #407557 22-Nov-2010 10:13
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hmm so i typed https://mail.yahoo.com and it was red and ie9 said the certificate has been issued for another user or something

does that mean it's secure or not really?

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  #407559 22-Nov-2010 10:17
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joker97: hmm so i typed https://mail.yahoo.com and it was red and ie9 said the certificate has been issued for another user or something

does that mean it's secure or not really?


The certificate was issued to login.yahoo.com, when it should really be issued to the whole domain wildcard. Cheap people...





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  #407560 22-Nov-2010 10:19
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To be honest the most likely source is if you have used your email address AND SAME PASSWORD for your mail account to sign up to some dodgy website. They have both your email address and password so thats all they need.




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  #407626 22-Nov-2010 12:52
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actually it's an email address i rarely use and the password is not one i commonly use either. and i haven't signed on to any site with this email and password APART from the facebook uploading of contacts - that's all i can remember using these 2 rare combination for.

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  #407941 23-Nov-2010 00:02
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joker97: nakedmolerat: mild-mod secure

ragnor: how do you use https sites? do i type https instead of http for all my email? for example geekzone is shown as http and not https? sorry confused - am going to google soon

mmurf/c71931f: hmm actually thinking about it now i only accessed 3 library computers 3 weeks after the date shown on the unsent draft mails. but the mails were only sent after i went onto the lib computers ... weird! malwarebytes negative

xurizaemon: don't use yahoo messenger. interesting to know the attacks are on yahoo/xtra. maybe there's a security lapse. maybe i should delete the account and use gmail only!

thanks guys i think i'm gonna research how to use https ...


Basically yes, however not all sites will have gone to the expensive of setting it up ssl certificates on their web servers.

Some will only use https for login then revert to http.  You will notice online banking is always done through https the entire time.

Gmail uses https by default.
Windows Live Hotmail uses https for login then reverts to http

If you haven't heard about Firesheep, it's a harsh reminder that on a public network you don't know who's listening in to traffic and login session cookies can be hijacked easily (post login) as your auth cookie is often submitted with every http request.

http://gigaom.com/mobile/stop-firesheep-with-fireshepherd/
http://lifehacker.com/5684348/blacksheep-alerts-you-when-networking-sniffing-tool-firesheep-is-active






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