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Topic # 11123 4-Jan-2007 12:43
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Just been in the windows forums, and thought of something a little tough on ATI graphics cards users.

As many of us now come to expect a little more from a graphical desktop, we've all been duly impressed with the capabilities of the widgets like Beryl that sit on top of the Xgl library.

Now, thats 'X server with OpenGL support'.

Now i read in another thread, that after directX 10, ATI are no longer going to be supporting OpenGL with their drivers.

Does this mean that anyone with an ATI card running Linux will no longer be able to get updated drivers?  And therefore won't be able to run OpenGL apps of any sort on linux without using legacy drivers?  Do ATI even provide drivers for Linux?  I've never owned an ATI card so I wouldn't know...

If ATI cut OpenGL support, then won't that kill of ATI in the linux junkies market?

My impression from friends and gaming buddies, is that Nvidia just about come out on top against ATI, especially with the whole XBox thing.  Isn't this a silly move by ATI?

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  Reply # 56847 4-Jan-2007 12:58
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Nvidia: Xbox thing or PS3 thing (RSX) for that matter. Though ATi (or AMD) has Apple and Nintendo Wii/GameCube and there are a few PocketPC devices powered using ATi's video chip, like JasJam which did not make any mentioned of ATi video chip in its specification.

How will ATi (or AMD) survive in Linux world in the future? Maybe they are not interested in that part of the world perhaps? Who knows... Maybe ATi/AMD is holding the plan real close to the chest? Or debut a whole new chipset that has OpenGL/XGL built on the processor? *pure speculation here*

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  Reply # 56857 4-Jan-2007 14:07

I think ATi will only drop their OpenGL support on Vista because of Aero (which is a spanner stuck in OpenGL's cogs - to make an analogy).

IMHO NVIDIA provide better drivers for Linux than ATi, but ATi are getting with the pace finally and now both actively maintain their drivers for Linux.

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  Reply # 56891 4-Jan-2007 17:15
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What confuses me is how ATi is sleeping with AMD now.

AMD make CPUs and stuff. If ATi has forgotten about OpenGL and doesnt consider Linux worth - what does that say about AMD? It seems like the divide between Linux and Windows is going to be more than software- its going to be the hardware too.

'Oh sorry yeah this is a Linux computer, not a Windows one so it doesnt play games or watch movies or listen to music'.  <-- Lets hope that doesnt become a reality.

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