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Topic # 80572 1-Apr-2011 13:54
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Hi there Im finately gonna give Linux a go so I got a new machine and i have download it these two OS
however when i restart pc nothing happens and on the screen it saids starting from dvd..... linux blah blah but nothing happens. both mint and pardus dont boot.

I burned the image to dvd using CDBurnerXP and burn it as image to dvd.
how did you burn this linux iso OS did you unzip or unpack with poweriso first or just burn it ? i did both and nothing worlked.


is there a better simple program that could do it without wasting my dvds


Thanks guys,

Andy

Addon I notice the image download it from both OS are langer that the one on dvd why is that?

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  Reply # 454232 1-Apr-2011 15:04
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GamerOC:

Addon I notice the image download it from both OS are langer that the one on dvd why is that?


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  Reply # 454247 1-Apr-2011 15:47
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I've never installed Linux Mint, but I've burnt iso files to CD and DVD a few times for Debian, Redhat, Windows 2008 and others, both at work and at home and I've used InfraRecorder on Windows.
http://infrarecorder.org/

InfraRecorder is very simple to use - when you start InfraRecorder, there is a "Write Image" option, just click on that and select the downloaded iso file - no need to unzip the iso or mess around with it in any way - then default options should work. I'm a bit conservative and sometimes set the write speed to a lower speed than default.

GamerOC:
Addon I notice the image download it from both OS are langer that the one on dvd why is that?

Hmmm... I suspect this means you burnt an iso file to your DVD and you now have a DVD with a single file on it. The iso file is the complete image of a CDROM or DVD filesystem that includes all the files you need and in most cases should be readable on Windows and Linux - that is to say, you should be able to see all the folders and files in the DVD.

Edit: update link to make clickable.

 
 
 
 


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  Reply # 454263 1-Apr-2011 16:17
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Some Linux installation CDs have problems with some hardware configurations, as the graphical environment fails to start with picky graphic cards. For instance I could not get the Ubuntu installation CD with my MacBook Pro

I suggest you to give a shot to the Ubuntu Alternate Install disc, it does not use a graphical installation but a text one, but it's quite easy to complete it. Once the system is installed and working you can select the optimum drivers.

http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/alternative-download


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  Reply # 454397 1-Apr-2011 22:19
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GamerOC:

starting from dvd..... linux blah blah but nothing happens.


So looking at this again, it seems that at least the DVD did boot and you saw some text. It might help to know what the "blah blah" was, otherwise we are just guessing how far it got and where it went wrong.

For example, in the beginning you might see some messages a bit like:

ISOLINUX 3.85 2010-02-20 Copyright (C) 1994-2010 H. Peter Anvin
.....

It's the lines that come after this that are the interesting ones. By the way, isolinux isn't the linux kernel, it's a boot loader that attempts to boot the linux kernel from CDROM (or DVD).

Depending on the distribution, a lot of the interesting stuff might be hidden behind some pretty splash screen, but hopefully there was something useful there.

In Linux mint did you get a screen like this...

http://www.linuxmint.com/pictures/screenshots/julia/isolinux.png

Or perhaps it didn't get that far?




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  Reply # 454463 2-Apr-2011 10:34
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Hi there thank you all for your replies  I did not reply any sooner as I was working all night and I just got home.

valtam   sorry not explaining well i was in a hurry and also english is my third language. my bad

alexx thanks i will try that now I reckon that may be the solution.

marpada  thanks for reply but i already got the ubuntu cd and boots live but i dont like ubuntu too much orange. that is why i want to try Pardus 2011.

alexx yes the message that comes at the booting time is ISOLINUX 3.85 2010-02-20 Copyright (C) 1994-2010 H. Peter Anv but nothing happens even if i wait for a while.

Addon reply  what i was trying to say on my Addon was that i download it Pardus intallation ISO with 1.1GB size but after burning to dvd as image the size has been reduced to under 200mb? I also try to open it with PowerIso to extract then burn and PowerIso displayed a message saying format not compatible???

thank you guys,


Andy

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  Reply # 454511 2-Apr-2011 13:03
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So it seems you are booting the DVD and the ISOLINUX bootloader runs, but nothing after that. ISOLINUX is very similar to SYSLINUX - not sure if you have ever used SYSLINUX to make a bootable USB stick, but it works almost the same.

http://syslinux.zytor.com/wiki/index.php/ISOLINUX

The BIOS selects the CDROM/DVD as the boot device, isolinux code is read from CDROM/DVD and isolinux runs.
So you see a line of text like this:

ISOLINUX 3.85 2010-02-20 Copyright (c) 1994-2010 H. Peter Anvin

Then isolinux should be reading the config file - isolinux.cfg
Search order on cdrom is: /boot/isolinux then /isolinux then /

In Debian 6.0 the file is /isolinux/isolinux.cfg

I'd expect Linux Mint to be much the same.
Then in isolinux.cfg it is quite likely that you have some statements like these:

include menu.cfg
default vesamenu.c32
prompt 0
timeout 0

So you also need to have menu.cfg

This might also have some lines (these are some from debian)...

include stdmenu.cfg
include txt.cfg
include amdtxt.cfg
include gtk.cfg
include amdgtk.cfg

Together all those cfg files are creating the boot menu like this one in Linux Mint:

http://www.linuxmint.com/pictures/screenshots/julia/isolinux.png

But you didn't get that far, as it appears you saw no menu screen?
Do you even have isolinux.cfg and menu.cfg on your disk?

Perhaps you need to try and write the DVD again - if the downloaded iso was 600MB to several GB, the DVD should contain more than 200MB.
...and a lot more than 200mb. Wink

Let us know how you get on.

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  Reply # 454675 2-Apr-2011 23:30
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marpada  thanks for reply but i already got the ubuntu cd and boots live but i dont like ubuntu too much orange. that is why i want to try Pardus 2011.

If the colour is the only thing putting you off Ubuntu I'd be inclined to install it anyway. If you got the live CD running chances are good it will install.

The appearance can be changed pretty easily - there's a selection of basic themes and wallpapers built in and there's also a good selection you can download from  http://gnome-look.org/ 

Blair



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  Reply # 454692 3-Apr-2011 01:30
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Blair thank you so much for advise and info, Yes i have install it Ubuntu successfully as 64bit system and wow is fast I will give it a go to change the colours as is a big put off point but if I can use Ubuntu for my HD Freeview with Mythtv and able to use other apps with it as well i will be more than happy to kick windows into touch!.


Thanks again as problem solved for now if Ubuntu does not do what i want or is to hard to setup i will probably go with Pardus,


Andy



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  Reply # 457928 12-Apr-2011 16:51
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Just my last update on the creating a live disk for linux distros and instead i find a great app called Linux Live USB Creator and i kick the live cd burning into touch as this app not only let me create a live usb with full linux distro in it but also has   two great features one it lets you boot from ram  and save you work in the USB stick plus it has a built in virtualisation app that will let you run any Linux distro withing windows that is 100% free software.  
oops the reason i wanted to place my last post is to let you know that i have installed Kubuntu in my Win7 machine and it does everything out of the box lolwut it took me a few minutes to download Mythtv  and installs by itself like windows lolwut I cant believe it how easy and fast is this distro  so finately i uninstall Ubuntu and install it Kubuntu and my Mythtv is running like    awesome.

Thanks open source software,


Andy

 

LinuxLive USB Creator


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