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#3287009 27-Sep-2024 14:07

cddt: Even Notepad has now been mangled away from being a text editor and exists in some horrible middle ground where it is adding features no one has every wanted in a plain text editor...

And then there's text-based message boards which pick up the formatting of the text you're pasting into a quote section, so every time you want to quote something you first have to paste it into a text editor to remove the formatting before you can paste it a second time into the message you're writing.

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#3287011 27-Sep-2024 14:09

Rikkitic: So with blood spurting everywhere I fumbled out a Band-Aid (Johnson and Johnson) of sufficient size, only to discover that it is practically IMPOSSIBLE to unwrap the damned thing with an injured hand.

Yup, that's stupidity above and beyond the call of duty. 99.9% of the time when I need a band-aid I'm using one hand to press something onto the injury to stop the flow of blood, but as you've pointed out it's impossible to get the Band-Aid out with one hand.

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#3287206 27-Sep-2024 21:26

Rikkitic:

From past experience I thought there was a string somewhere that was supposed to open it but I couldn’t find one and everything was covered in blood anyway.

Nope, no string any more. You have to work out which end it opens from, get a fingernail between the two halves and then pull it apart. My mother (92) struggles with this all the time - she looks for the string.

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#3287207 27-Sep-2024 21:36

And there are discussion threads on this. Best answer for why it's impossible to open them with one hand: "Because 99% of moms have two hands".

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#3287210 27-Sep-2024 21:52

neb:

And there are discussion threads on this. Best answer for why it's impossible to open them with one hand: "Because 99% of moms have two hands".

100% of moms with a bleeding hand only have one usable hand.

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#3287970 30-Sep-2024 10:19

Cancelling an item in Jira: you can either cancel, or cancel - just don't get them mixed up:

(I'm not a big Jira user, but I don't think this happens every time - I might have hit an unusual combination)

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#3288362 30-Sep-2024 19:07

freitasm:

Most Windows programs use CTRL-SHIFT-V as a shortcut to Paste as Text.

Not Microsoft Office apps. You had to use a right-click option to paste as text.

Microsoft has adopted this shortcut now. However, despite being announced in March 2023, it still doesn't work as expected.

I honestly don't understand why the default paste is to paste with formatting. In years of using computers every day, I've rarely wanted paste to work this way. 99% of the time I just want the text pasted and usually that's all that's needed. It'd make more sense for me that the default is paste text only and some keyboard combo be the one to paste with formatting. Am I the only one who thinks this way...? It's not just Microsoft, every other platform adopts this paste-with-everything-I-don't-want approach. Drives me nuts.

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#3288366 30-Sep-2024 19:13

KiwiSurfer: I honestly don't understand why the default paste is to paste with formatting. In years of using computers every day, I've rarely wanted paste to work this way. 99% of the time I just want the text pasted and usually that's all that's needed. It'd make more sense for me that the default is paste text only and some keyboard combo be the one to paste with formatting. Am I the only one who thinks this way...? It's not just Microsoft, every other platform adopts this paste-with-everything-I-don't-want approach. Drives me nuts.

It's quite possibly because, to quote Raymond Chen, "somebody got a nice bonus for that feature". It takes a lot of coding effort to paste and accept in the destination not just the plain text but all of the formatting alongside it, so now that we've put in the effort lets make sure everyone gets to appreciate it.

Probably the same reason for the utterly braindamaged way in which way too much software that tracks things by dates says "two weeks ago" rather than giving you the actual date something was posted on - it took a lot of effort to implement to render a useful date into useless baby-talk, so we'll make sure everyone sees it all the time.

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#3288369 30-Sep-2024 19:17

Microsoft, in particular, seems to really want you to use the new features. If you don't use a new feature, it pops up a notification telling you about it. If you still haven't used it after x days, it notifies you again. A good operating system is supposed to stay out of the way and let you get your work done!

I saw a comment the other day about how the marketing materials for Windows referred to the "Windows experience". But a good operating system is something you don't "experience", because it should be invisible.

My opinion is that Microsoft wants to discontinue Windows, but doesn't want to go through the legal hassles that would inevitably erupt if they actually discontinued Windows. So we're onto Plan B: gradually make it worse and worse until everyone leaves.

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#3288372 30-Sep-2024 19:21

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#3288396 30-Sep-2024 23:39

KiwiSurfer:

I honestly don't understand why the default paste is to paste with formatting. In years of using computers every day, I've rarely wanted paste to work this way. 99% of the time I just want the text pasted and usually that's all that's needed. It'd make more sense for me that the default is paste text only and some keyboard combo be the one to paste with formatting. Am I the only one who thinks this way...? It's not just Microsoft, every other platform adopts this paste-with-everything-I-don't-want approach. Drives me nuts.

I am a writer by trade (retired) and in my typo-prone old age I like to compose my posts and messages off-line where I can edit and make changes with all the cool tools available that make that kind of thing a breeze (not to mention the spelling check). Years ago I co-opted a very old version of Microsoft Word that is perfectly suited to this task (Word 2000, actually). It still runs fine under Win 10 and I keep it on my task bar. I am using it right now. Along with it I found a great little utility (that's what they called them before they became apps) called Get Plain Text that strips out all the formatting characters from whatever is in memory when it is run. So I write my text, Copy All, click on Get Plain Text, paste. What could be easier?

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#3288399 1-Oct-2024 01:31

Rikkitic:
Stupid design is not limited to software. I just badly sliced my thumb while chopping kindling. Fortunately I have a fairly comprehensive first aid kit. So with blood spurting everywhere I fumbled out a Band-Aid (Johnson and Johnson) of sufficient size, only to discover that it is practically IMPOSSIBLE to unwrap the damned thing with an injured hand. I really struggled while trying to stem the flow of blood with tissue paper. I tore it one way, then the other. I used my teeth. Nothing I tried seemed to work. From past experience I thought there was a string somewhere that was supposed to open it but I couldn’t find one and everything was covered in blood anyway.

They seem to be so obsessed with keeping it sterile that there is practically no way to actually get it out. I did finally succeed but it was WAY more trouble than it should have been, especially given the circumstance. I just hope whoever is responsible for this cuts their thumb one day and needs a quick and easy bandage.

That reminds me of my migraine tablets. Most tablets come in blister packs that you can push them from one side and they pop out the other through the foil

These pills require you to run your finger pad over a corner of one of the square tear off sections per pill so that the foil catches on your finger print and bends back a little so you can then get it with your finger nail to peel off, revealing the pill.

If you don’t get it quite right the foil seems to have a later of print on it that you can end up tearing instead leaving the pill still sealed. The foil is such that it can’t be popped by pushing the pill due to the covering.

When I’ve got a migraine and need one I have to sit at the table, close my eyes for a mo and relax to briefly divert all systems to brain, eyes and fingers. I’ve since learned to take them at onset.

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#3288400 1-Oct-2024 02:38

MadEngineer: That reminds me of my migraine tablets. Most tablets come in blister packs that you can push them from one side and they pop out the other through the foil

It's best not to get them out that way, in fact some specifically say "Do not push through blister". What you do is puncture the foil with a fingernail and then drop the contents out onto your hand, much simpler and no chance of crushing the tablet or having it fly across the room when the foil lets go.

Are your ones in allegedly child-resistant packaging, where they reinforce the foil with plastic film to theoretically make it harder for children to open? If so, do you have a child you could get to open them for you?

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#3288415 1-Oct-2024 08:32

neb:

Probably the same reason for the utterly braindamaged way in which way too much software that tracks things by dates says "two weeks ago" rather than giving you the actual date something was posted on - it took a lot of effort to implement to render a useful date into useless baby-talk, so we'll make sure everyone sees it all the time.

I find that frustrating too.

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#3288423 1-Oct-2024 09:21

neb:

And then there's text-based message boards which pick up the formatting of the text you're pasting into a quote section, so every time you want to quote something you first have to paste it into a text editor to remove the formatting before you can paste it a second time into the message you're writing.

Here's a new one: copying text from one email to another, despite the entire text of both the source and destination emails being in 11pt font, Outlook has decided to paste it as 12pt. This just started today...

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