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#3203474 5-Mar-2024 19:28

Handle9:

She’s not responsible or accountability for Newshub restructuring. Why would she want to be associated with it? There’s no benefit for her and she has no responsibility for it so she’ll stay a long way away from it.

Actually, not that far away. As it turns out, she did do an interview on the subject, which is all RNZ was asking for.

As this interview illustrates, the interview format goes beyond stand-ups and parliamentary questions. It reveals some things about the thinking and values of the person interviewed, and provides insights that go beyond political posturing. Interviews have value and the Newshub restructuring has repercussions that touch every other aspect of NZ media. Of course she should grant interviews, and I'm glad she did this one. I wish she would do more.

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#3203476 5-Mar-2024 19:32

There have been a number of suggestions as to what the government could do to support Newshub, such as the Meta/Google regulation, dropping Kordia transmission fees, or evening the playing field by requiring TVNZ to return a dividend. Ultimately I am doubtful as to whether any of that would make a material difference.

What I am more interested in hearing from the minster about is the long term strategy for NZ On Air. It is widely believed within media circles that Three will lose a huge chunk of audience share as a result of no longer having the audience lead-in provided by news. This makes it a lot more difficult for NZ On Air to justify support for productions that would screen on Three, and the implications of that are currently unclear due to the minster's failure to front up.

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#3203480 5-Mar-2024 19:47

Rikkitic:

Handle9:

She’s not responsible or accountability for Newshub restructuring. Why would she want to be associated with it? There’s no benefit for her and she has no responsibility for it so she’ll stay a long way away from it.

Actually, not that far away. As it turns out, she did do an interview on the subject, which is all RNZ was asking for.

As this interview illustrates, the interview format goes beyond stand-ups and parliamentary questions. It reveals some things about the thinking and values of the person interviewed, and provides insights that go beyond political posturing. Interviews have value and the Newshub restructuring has repercussions that touch every other aspect of NZ media. Of course she should grant interviews, and I'm glad she did this one. I wish she would do more.

There's no new information from that "interview" from what she, and the PM, provided in their standups. It looks like a 5 minute phone call transcript.

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#3203494 5-Mar-2024 20:07

Handle9:

There's no new information from that "interview" from what she, and the PM, provided in their standups. It looks like a 5 minute phone call transcript.

Maybe for you. I found it useful. I do wish it had been longer.

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#3203585 6-Mar-2024 08:14

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In Australia and Canada Google and Meta have said they are not going to pay for news content. They are not going to change their mind about New Zealand.

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#3203597 6-Mar-2024 08:45

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In Australia and Canada Google and Meta have said they are not going to pay for news content. They are not going to change their mind about New Zealand.

I completely agree. Like I said in an earlier post, the only way to pursue this is with an OECD solution and even that would have uncertain results.

Politically, though, it seems likely that the new government will still pursue the legislation due to the growing public discomfort around Meta and Google.

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#3203598 6-Mar-2024 08:47

If they won't budge for Australia and Canada they certainly won't for New Zealand. And nor should they. The traditional model is well and truly outdated now and coming up with legislation to retain it would be like legislating to retain horse drawn carriages.

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#3203599 6-Mar-2024 08:48

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Would be a complete waste of time.

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#3203763 6-Mar-2024 13:08

ajw: In Australia and Canada Google and Meta have said they are not going to pay for news content. They are not going to change their mind about New Zealand.

There are numerous articles saying payments are being made in Australia after the law change. I'm not sure why you and several posters on the topic think otherwise:

"Since the News Media Bargaining Code took effect, the tech firms had inked more than 30 deals with media outlets compensating them for content which generated clicks and advertising dollars, said the Treasury department report, published late Thursday."

https://www.reuters.com/technology/australia-says-law-making-facebook-google-pay-news-has-worked-2022-12-02/

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#3203773 6-Mar-2024 13:29

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Perhaps you haven't read this. It pays to keep up with the news.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-03-02/facebook-google-news-media-deal-media-pay-meta/103534342

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#3203775 6-Mar-2024 13:37

The article says Meta will no longer serve Australian news. That is not the same as not paying. It is a simple commercial decision and it will impact Meta users. This provides a commercial opportunity for other networks. That is how the legislation is intended to work in establishing a fair market.

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#3203783 6-Mar-2024 14:10

this article: https://www.reuters.com/technology/meta-says-will-no-longer-pay-traditional-news-content-australia-france-germany-2024-03-01/

states "Meta Platforms said it will stop paying Australian news publishers for content that appears on Facebook"

..seems reasonably clear

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#3203790 6-Mar-2024 14:54

ajw:
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In Australia and Canada Google and Meta have said they are not going to pay for news content. They are not going to change their mind about New Zealand.

Both are paying for news now in Australia. Meta is claiming it will stop linking news articles once the current deals run out but that is not what you have claimed.

There are a number of similar deals in NZ already, notably with NZME and RNZ.

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#3203802 6-Mar-2024 15:26

ajw:

In Australia and Canada Google and Meta have said they are not going to pay for news content. They are not going to change their mind about New Zealand.

That’s ambiguous. Just to be clear, I think you mean “… Meta have said they will not continue to pay for news content…” [when their existing arrangements end]?

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#3203811 6-Mar-2024 16:13

There is only one thing the govt should really do and that is ensure the playing field for media is as level as possible in this country. That probably means making sure that social media don't get to scrape MSM content and ensuring they pay tax.

I used to think state owned broadcasters were a good idea, but that was when they were editorially neutral and objective. We haven't had that for years, maybe decades. Add in the strings attached media funding and it's all a bit ... icky, from a democratic perspective.

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