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outdoorsnz
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  #2990520 1-Nov-2022 11:02
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Just discovered that my en-suite shower was incorrectly installed and wasn't sealed correctly. It started to leak quite badly!

 

That's now the third case of this I've heard, the worst one being where it had progressed to the point that the floor joists had rotted out and it required a considerable amount of rebuilding to fix. Anyone know if a pinless moisture meter will work reliably through fibre-reinforced acrylic?

 

Asked plumber know a good builder? He said don't get so and so, cus he installed it and doesn't do a very good job! Quite p***ed as it will require rotten floor boards to be replaced. I most always wipe shower down with a towel. So suspect it was slowing leaking at bottom of lining and got suddenly worse when I must have knocked the silicone seal on inside out with wiping. Because vinyl bubbled up and wet as under it!!!


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  #2990524 1-Nov-2022 11:16
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Something is snipping the heads off my Marigolds. Jeesus christus, can't I even just enjoy some bloody flowers?

 

 





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  #2990526 1-Nov-2022 11:21
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Rikkitic:

Something is snipping the heads off my Marigolds. Jeesus christus, can't I even just enjoy some bloody flowers?


 



I have a Hungarian Vizsla who takes great delight in doing this. She will take a flower between her teeth, pluck it, and then promptly spit it out.

She also enjoys doing exactly the same to the blueberries I have growing!

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  #2990527 1-Nov-2022 11:25
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outdoorsnz: So suspect it was slowing leaking at bottom of lining and got suddenly worse when I must have knocked the silicone seal on inside out with wiping. Because vinyl bubbled up and wet as under it!!!



Find the installation instructions for your shower and have a read. AFAIK most don't have silicone seal where you could see or wipe so that you don't see it when it gets mould. There should probably be quite a wide band just up from bottom edge.

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  #2990551 1-Nov-2022 12:38
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Kathmandu’s website, like many, has a convenient function of showing your their stock levels by branch. That’s fantastic except for them their stock levels are driven by “head office” so something could still be shipping to them but they’ll be showing it as being in stock.




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  #2990632 1-Nov-2022 15:31
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Hearing (Not the only person) a LOUD Noise like a car crash, yet hearing no sirens etc!

 

A total mystery!


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  #2990633 1-Nov-2022 15:34
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Computer Lounge is slow at shipping stuff.   I ordered it first thing in the morning, like 8am, everything in stock.  I get a shipping notification its sent at 5:30pm.

 

 

 

No its not shipped, you put a label on it, it gets picked up the next day.  So the delivery takes an extra day... hurry up.   

 

 

 

MightyApe are way better, but they don't stock much computer stuff these days.


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  #2990639 1-Nov-2022 15:57
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neb:
outdoorsnz:

Just discovered that my en-suite shower was incorrectly installed and wasn't sealed correctly. It started to leak quite badly!



That's now the third case of this I've heard, the worst one being where it had progressed to the point that the floor joists had rotted out and it required a considerable amount of rebuilding to fix. Anyone know if a pinless moisture meter will work reliably through fibre-reinforced acrylic?


I kept getting whiffs of putrid yuk at the sink when I let the water out. Mr E checked the drains in case of blockage, all good. Smell persisted and got worse. 'You’re imagining it,' he says. Rolls eyes and suggests am always finding problems, tu,tut. I figured maybe the compost bin? Scrub, scrub, bleach. Still smelly. Saturday decided to pull everything in roller bins out from under the sink to find water everywhere. The entire waste pipe had come out of the bottom bit and so for weeks the water was pouring straight out to below the bottom shelf and soaking through the wheat bix floor.

My sweet neighbour came over with a saw and lifted off the bottom shelf and the floor was just sludge. It’s also crept under the floor tiles as well. Then as he was cutting out the back of the cupboard that was soaked up to halfway, he chopped the wires, power gone but at least he lived!
A lot of eye affecting dust that day.

Assessor came today and talked about residual damage so waiting to hear back. But wait there’s more... Sunday a retaining wall collapsed when the fellow pushed on it. Rotted round posts the size of a lamp post. Must surely be time for the Locust plague.

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  #2990641 1-Nov-2022 16:02
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Southern cross, NZ's biggest health insurer....their online quote page does not work at all. . .

 

https://join.southerncross.co.nz/quote

 

Can't submit a complaint or enquiry as they ask for too many personal details and you have to be a member to make an inquiry. 

 

Unless, it is just me and I need to clear cookies or something :(

 

 

 

 

 

 


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  #2990642 1-Nov-2022 16:11
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surfisup1000:

 

Southern cross, NZ's biggest health insurer....their online quote page does not work at all. . .

 

https://join.southerncross.co.nz/quote

 

Can't submit a complaint or enquiry as they ask for too many personal details and you have to be a member to make an inquiry. 

 

Unless, it is just me and I need to clear cookies or something :(

 

 

Clear your cookies - it's working just fine

 





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Handsome Dan needs to stop adding three dots to every sentence...

 

Handsome Dan does not currently have a side hustle as the mascot for Yale 

 

 

 

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  #2990644 1-Nov-2022 16:22
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Eva888: 

I kept getting whiffs of putrid yuk at the sink when I let the water out. Mr E checked the drains in case of blockage, all good. Smell persisted and got worse. 'You’re imagining it,' he says. Rolls eyes and suggests am always finding problems, tu,tut. I figured maybe the compost bin? Scrub, scrub, bleach. Still smelly. Saturday decided to pull everything in roller bins out from under the sink to find water everywhere. The entire waste pipe had come out of the bottom bit and so for weeks the water was pouring straight out to below the bottom shelf and soaking through the wheat bix floor.

My sweet neighbour came over with a saw and lifted off the bottom shelf and the floor was just sludge. It’s also crept under the floor tiles as well. Then as he was cutting out the back of the cupboard that was soaked up to halfway, he chopped the wires, power gone but at least he lived!
A lot of eye affecting dust that day.

Assessor came today and talked about residual damage so waiting to hear back. But wait there’s more... Sunday a retaining wall collapsed when the fellow pushed on it. Rotted round posts the size of a lamp post. Must surely be time for the Locust plague.

 

When it rains, it pours. 

 

We had the well-documented leaks that are about to be fixed by the insurers, but now, with us moving out of the house to allow the work to go ahead, having just spent $16k on new gutters to prevent new leaks we've discovered our shower base is cracked and will have likely been leaking into the floorboards for some time. 

 

I'm not actually sure where we'll find the cash for that one. It's been an expensive few months. I doubt we'll be able to claim insurance, with the tens of thousands they'll be paying out for water damage throughout the rest of the house. I'd say they'll find any reason not to accept a further claim like that. 





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Handsome Dan needs to stop adding three dots to every sentence...

 

Handsome Dan does not currently have a side hustle as the mascot for Yale 

 

 

 

*Gladly accepting donations...


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  #2990645 1-Nov-2022 16:22
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Just how bad a lot of aimed-at-end-users open-source software is. In this case it was Thunderbird, which I was setting up for an elderly neighbour who used an Xtra address. TB recognised it and immediately configured itself for it: POP3 not IMAP, wrong server FQDN, wrong port, wrong access method, wrong SMTP server FQDN, wrong port, wrong access method. Every single thing was wrong, and after repeatedly manually editing them to the correct settings they reset themselves to the wrong ones again. Reading through various guesses in online forums, most of which couldn't be followed because the UI had been pointlessly rearranged several times since they were written (hey, Mozilla has to burn all that Google ad money somewhere), including deleting accounts and trying again, even with the correct information finally sticking in the dialogs it would still try and connect to the wrong servers. Eventually an uninstall, wipe of install directories, reinstall, and hand-edit of information got it to work.

 

 

And no matter how many times I clicked my heels together and chanted "many eyes make bugs shallow", the magic of open sores never took hold. Was tempted to waste even more time filing a long string of bug reports but when I looked at all the years-old unresolved entries in the TB Bugzilla I realised that I really would be just wasting my time.

 


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  #2990706 1-Nov-2022 17:25
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neb: Just how bad a lot of aimed-at-end-users open-source software is. In this case it was Thunderbird, which I was setting up for an elderly neighbour who used an Xtra address. TB recognised it and immediately configured itself for it: POP3 not IMAP, wrong server FQDN, wrong port, wrong access method, wrong SMTP server FQDN, wrong port, wrong access method. Every single thing was wrong, and after repeatedly manually editing them to the correct settings they reset themselves to the wrong ones again. Reading through various guesses in online forums, most of which couldn't be followed because the UI had been pointlessly rearranged several times since they were written (hey, Mozilla has to burn all that Google ad money somewhere), including deleting accounts and trying again, even with the correct information finally sticking in the dialogs it would still try and connect to the wrong servers. Eventually an uninstall, wipe of install directories, reinstall, and hand-edit of information got it to work. And no matter how many times I clicked my heels together and chanted "many eyes make bugs shallow", the magic of open sores never took hold. Was tempted to waste even more time filing a long string of bug reports but when I looked at all the years-old unresolved entries in the TB Bugzilla I realised that I really would be just wasting my time.

 

It seems that thunderbird is abandonware since Mozilla lost interest in it since it cant be monetized.

 

It also will have trouble displaying many emails that work fine in gmails web interface and other clients showing broken images that are in fact there.





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  #2990711 1-Nov-2022 17:41
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Handsomedan:

 

Clear your cookies - it's working just fine

 

 

That's weird... cleared them, still not working, tried on 2 different PC's, and MS edge browser. Same result in all cases. 

 

 

 

 

[Edit] Works on the iphone though! (on same network). 


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  #2990779 1-Nov-2022 21:19
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richms:

It seems that thunderbird is abandonware since Mozilla lost interest in it since it cant be monetized.

 

 

It's not true abandonware, it's more a sort of neglectware where it still looks like it's alive and being maintained but the maintenance is so minimal that, apart from the gratuitous UI changes, nothing's actually being done.

 

 

Can anyone recommend a Windows mail client that doesn't suck and that'd be suitable for use by nontechnical people? I need some sort of go-to app to put on people's machines that doesn't require hours of training to figure out and that mostly works most of the time.

 

 

Oh, and before TB I tried whatever Microsoft is shipping with Windows 10 as a mail client. No matter how bad, how crappy, how unintuitive they make TB, they can never make it anywhere close to as bad as Microsoft's mail whatever-it-is.

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