[Annoy] What's something small that really annoys you?

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#3019236 9-Jan-2023 19:31

Ok let me expalin a bit differently. Our internet is unlimted, so we have downloads and streaming happening 24/7 for a fixed price. Our power I can track excess usage and turn off lights etc and I k now what the monthly bill will be.

With Water, we have had more estimates than actual reads so I have no idea what a monthly bill should be... our meter is not easily accessible, I know the old system is for one month estimate, one month actual reading but Watercare have done 2 or three actual reads a year since the beginning of covid... the estimates are generally over estimated and so the actuals are really small bills...

Its difficult to budget for monthly bills, having to actually manually read an analogue meter is so 1800's! but watercare are a monopoly so they do whatever they want and charge whatever they want.

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#3019237 9-Jan-2023 19:35

Tinkerisk:

I've just self-upgraded my monthly prepayment rate for electricity online according to my 2022 consumption data so that I don't have to make an astronomical back payment at the end of this year due to the increasing price to €0.42/kWh (equivalent to 0.70NZD/kWh).

Ouch. You are in Germany. (I did 3 years German at high school :-) ) Hopefully the causer of your power bills will find his due penance. And in the interim EU will become independent of energy. No short term fix though.

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#3019285 9-Jan-2023 19:39

Bee:

Ok let me expalin a bit differently. Our internet is unlimted, so we have downloads and streaming happening 24/7 for a fixed price. Our power I can track excess usage and turn off lights etc and I k now what the monthly bill will be.

With Water, we have had more estimates than actual reads so I have no idea what a monthly bill should be... our meter is not easily accessible, I know the old system is for one month estimate, one month actual reading but Watercare have done 2 or three actual reads a year since the beginning of covid... the estimates are generally over estimated and so the actuals are really small bills...

Its difficult to budget for monthly bills, having to actually manually read an analogue meter is so 1800's! but watercare are a monopoly so they do whatever they want and charge whatever they want.

OK, so the issue is actuals vs estimates. If you have historical actuals, thats all you need to know. If the estimates are higher thats poor, but your annual usage will be the same. Not great, but annually you are not being ripped off. Set up an A/P allowing for over generous estimates, then adjust, then its set and forget

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#3019292 9-Jan-2023 20:00

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Using over 900L per day average.

Oups, that sounds pretty high. The average consumption in GER per capita and day is 127L and already considered as too high. And every litre of drinking water consumed has to be paid for with the same price for waste water to finance the sewage treatment plants = double the price.

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#3019299 9-Jan-2023 20:09

tdgeek:

Ouch. You are in Germany. (I did 3 years German at high school :-) ) Hopefully the causer of your power bills will find his due penance. And in the interim EU will become independent of energy. No short term fix though.

I don't want to say that I am grateful to the causer, but finally being forced to think about long-term energy was long overdue here. Suddenly, 10% of households have smart heating - and the trend is increasing extremely strongly. This could have happened earlier, but it didn't hurt the masses then. I assume that energy prices worldwide will only know one path (regardless of the one that merely accelerated it): the upward one.

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#3019304 9-Jan-2023 20:16

Tinkerisk:

Oups, that sounds pretty high. The average consumption in GER per capita and day is 127L/day and already considered as too high. And every litre of drinking water consumed has to be paid for with the same price for waste water, i.e. double the price.

In ChCh (its dry here) the average is circa 500L per day ( thats annualised) They set the marker at 700L per day otherwise you get charged. But as they wont charge less than a $25 quarterly bill, you can use 900L average.

I feel our benefit is a Japan/UK sized country with 5 million population. We have space. My home, in a modern subdivision is almost 300sqm and the land almost 1/4 acre. Water for vege gardens, shrub/flower gardens, lawns. Like everywhere there are pros and cons, its ok here in GodZone

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#3019308 9-Jan-2023 20:26

tdgeek:

In ChCh (its dry here) the average is circa 500L per day ( thats annualised) They set the marker at 700L per day otherwise you get charged. But as they wont charge less than a $25 quarterly bill, you can use 900L average.

I feel our benefit is a Japan/UK sized country with 5 million population. We have space. My home, in a modern subdivision is almost 300sqm and the land almost 1/4 acre. Water for vege gardens, shrub/flower gardens, lawns. Like everywhere there are pros and cons, its ok here in GodZone

Oh, I didn't mean to bring that up as a criticism - you're perfectly free to do that. But please remember that untreated sewage destroys your beautiful idyll (this is not meant sarcastically at all) and a big bill could still come. I would not wish that on you.

By the way, we pay 3,96€/1000L (6.64NZD/1000L) incl. sewage plus a fixed fee for the measuring device. Trend: rising

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#3019322 9-Jan-2023 21:40

Bee: My complaint is that water care do a crap job. If you had to read your water and power every month would you be happy with that? If your power company charged random amounts every month would you be happy with that?

As per the topic, it's small perhaps but still annoying 🙂

while i get you are annoyed you do realise there are thousands of covid cases out there at the moment, and there are also job shortages accross the board. they likely cant/dont have the people to rear everyones meter.

the temporary solution is to manually send in your reading if your unhappy with whats happening.

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#3019323 9-Jan-2023 21:46

Getting old enough to need glasses and then getting used to them.

Mrs Handle is getting a great deal of amusement at the moment.

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#3019325 9-Jan-2023 21:51

Handle9: Getting old enough to need glasses and then getting used to them.

Mrs Handle is getting a great deal of amusement at the moment.

I have worn glasses since I was 6 never been a hassle for me

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#3019326 9-Jan-2023 21:53

MikeB4:

Handle9: Getting old enough to need glasses and then getting used to them.

Mrs Handle is getting a great deal of amusement at the moment.

I have worn glasses since I was 6 never been a hassle for me

Good for you, I have no idea how that relates to me.

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#3019327 9-Jan-2023 22:07

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#3019334 9-Jan-2023 22:46

Handle9: Getting old enough to need glasses and then getting used to them.

Eh, what's that? You'll have to speak up young man, hearing isn't as good as it used to be.

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#3019373 10-Jan-2023 07:19

Handle9:

MikeB4:

Handle9: Getting old enough to need glasses and then getting used to them.

I have worn glasses since I was 6 never been a hassle for me

Good for you, I have no idea how that relates to me.

Possibly because those of us who have been "old enough to need glasses" since age 6 are confused by the age requirement.

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#3019380 10-Jan-2023 07:48

Tinkerisk:

Oh, I didn't mean to bring that up as a criticism - you're perfectly free to do that. But please remember that untreated sewage destroys your beautiful idyll (this is not meant sarcastically at all) and a big bill could still come. I would not wish that on you.

By the way, we pay 3,96€/1000L (6.64NZD/1000L) incl. sewage plus a fixed fee for the measuring device. Trend: rising

None taken. Sewage? Our water comes form underground aquifers, so its very clean. Our new water rate is NZDn 1-35 per 1000 L average excess. I mulch all of the gardens, and have the lawn height longer (better health, natural mulch, a bit less watering)

3 month average to 27 Oct is 815L. Will be a bit more, but hopefully not a lot more to 27 Jan, cross fingers!

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