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  #2674765 15-Mar-2021 10:55
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Working for a Royal is a hard to get dream job to many and looks good on a CV so I would imagine staff would put up with an awful lot of flack before they decided to resign, therefore I believe there must be some substance to the allegations.

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  #2674776 15-Mar-2021 11:20
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If she lost her rag with being in the 1200 year old prison, is that wrong? No doubt there is an issue her, best to look at both sides


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  #2674778 15-Mar-2021 11:22
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If Meghan Markle bullied staff at the palace this is wrong and she should face that and deal with it, however that does not lessen the impact or the culpability of those who bullied her and racially abused her and her unborn child. This reinforces the premise of institutional bullying and racism at the palace.





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  #2674779 15-Mar-2021 11:25
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Eva888: In an interesting twist it seems Megan has some complaints against her for bullying the staff she was given by the palace to assist her. As I recall, a number of her staff left, apparently there were a lot of tears involved. The palace has decided to use an outside firm of lawyers to investigate all the claims so they won’t be seen as influencing. The old saying, 'what comes around goes around,' comes to mind.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/meghan-markle-bullying-palace-lawyers-b1816933.html

@mdooher Thanks for the reminder. I remember the 'sticks and stones will hurt my bones but names will never hurt me' saying back when I was a kid at school and was bullied because my parents were foreign and so was my lunch. When someone was being nasty it was commonly chanted back at the perpetrator and it made you feel good that you had a weapon of words to counter the playground meanness. For a child, it’s a non violent response that empowers them. I know being able to answer back with that chant made me feel stronger than taking it silently. I later grew up with sympathy for the downtrodden, kindness for the weak and an enormous admiration for those that dealt with the blows of life without complaining or being victims.

My very gentle, soft spoken granddaughter has also been bullied for not being able to skip well, so I am well aware of the effects. I’ve taught her the same rhyme to mutter to herself to give her courage and have also explained that life isn’t always fair and there will always be mean and nasty people to deal with, so she needs to understand this and choose her companions wisely and view the nasty ones as sick people to be pitied but ignored because she is superior to them because she is kind. You can’t legislate against every possibility in life and kids need to learn to accept there will be good and bad people and act accordingly. Mine has now been sent to karate so she feels physically stronger, but her kindness shines.

 

Taking up Karate is not an answer to bullying it is a reaction and a self treatment of the scars the bullying leaves. It does not address the root caused could well be seen as tacit approval of bullying.





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  #2674783 15-Mar-2021 11:36
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MikeB4:

 

Taking up Karate is not an answer to bullying it is a reaction and a self treatment of the scars the bullying leaves. It does not address the root caused could well be seen as tacit approval of bullying.

 

 

Not sure I agree with that. 

 

From what I've seen it does impart self-discipline and self-confidence, and being a member of a club is belonging to a supportive community.

 

Bullies tend not to pick on people who are confident, and that's not because they're better equipped to defend themselves against physical violent threats.  Bullies prey on those who they perceive to be weak.

 

 


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  #2674789 15-Mar-2021 11:50
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Fred99:

 

Bullies tend not to pick on people who are confident, ....  Bullies prey on those who they perceive to be weak.

 

 

One of the reasons I don't believe Meghan. She appears quite a strong willed woman to me, and most unlikely to be bullied. Not saying it isn't possible, just not likely

 

 





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  #2674792 15-Mar-2021 11:58
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mdooher:

 

 

 

One of the reasons I don't believe Meghan. She appears quite a strong willed woman to me, and most unlikely to be bullied. Not saying it isn't possible, just not likely

 

 

 

 

Respectfully that shows that you know very little about bullying and racism. It  proves we have a very long way to go in our society to correct this.





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  #2674796 15-Mar-2021 11:59
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Being strong willed doesn't preclude bullying. It does lead to being more likely to push back against it and take a stand. Even send some back.

 

One of the rumours going around when Harry and Meghan announced they were going independent was that Palace insiders and even other members of the family were selling her out to protect the other more compliant members of the institution. E.G. A tabloid reporter wold ring up about dirt on one of them, the response would be "I know nothing about that, but I can tell you that Meghan..." We are seeing more happening here with some proclaiming this being the biggest royal scandal for a generation completely ignoring Prince Andrew being revelaed last year to patying up with Epstein on a regular basis.


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  #2674797 15-Mar-2021 12:02
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Fred99:

 

MikeB4:

 

Taking up Karate is not an answer to bullying it is a reaction and a self treatment of the scars the bullying leaves. It does not address the root caused could well be seen as tacit approval of bullying.

 

 

Not sure I agree with that. 

 

From what I've seen it does impart self-discipline and self-confidence, and being a member of a club is belonging to a supportive community.

 

Bullies tend not to pick on people who are confident, and that's not because they're better equipped to defend themselves against physical violent threats.  Bullies prey on those who they perceive to be weak.

 

 

 

 

That is what I was saying. It is a way to repair self esteem and mitigate some of the damage but it is not the answer to bullying or racism. You hit a bully may stop the bully at the moment it does not address that root cause and may even cause an escalation of the issue. It is like the misconception that prison is the answer for crime. It stops the criminal in many cases continuing to offend while in prison but it does not address the root cause present in society at large.





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  #2674798 15-Mar-2021 12:02
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When you open a can of worms, be smart enough to know that the worms will crawl everywhere and won’t behave as you would wish.

I agree that it is more difficult to bully a strong willed person and generally the weak or timid are usually the easy target. Megan does not come across as timid. I hear she’s now planning to sit with the Democrats for President of the US.

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  #2674816 15-Mar-2021 12:09
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Varkk:

 

Being strong willed doesn't preclude bullying. It does lead to being more likely to push back against it and take a stand. Even send some back.

 

One of the rumours going around when Harry and Meghan announced they were going independent was that Palace insiders and even other members of the family were selling her out to protect the other more compliant members of the institution. E.G. A tabloid reporter wold ring up about dirt on one of them, the response would be "I know nothing about that, but I can tell you that Meghan..." We are seeing more happening here with some proclaiming this being the biggest royal scandal for a generation completely ignoring Prince Andrew being revelaed last year to patying up with Epstein on a regular basis.

 

 

The Firm. The Establishment. Harry even referred to it as the Business. Its 1200 years old, it needs to be kept "pure" The way he described it is as though the Royal Family are the actors, while the Firm are the producers and directors. Kings and Queens come and go, but the Firm will roll on. That's how it seems


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  #2674828 15-Mar-2021 12:27
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Eva888: I hear she’s now planning to sit with the Democrats for President of the US.

 

Oh,  for f#%%# goodness sake.

 

If that happens, I'm going to Mars with Elon.  "You're going to a better place", like the last words from an executioner. 


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  #2674831 15-Mar-2021 12:39
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Eva888: When you open a can of worms, be smart enough to know that the worms will crawl everywhere and won’t behave as you would wish.

I agree that it is more difficult to bully a strong willed person and generally the weak or timid are usually the easy target. Megan does not come across as timid. I hear she’s now planning to sit with the Democrats for President of the US.

 

Being "strong" as you put does not shield one from being the target of a bully. Describing those who react or are victims of bullying could be seen as bullying. As for the running for president links would be useful for this revelation 





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  #2674836 15-Mar-2021 12:49
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MikeB4:

 

As for the running for president links would be useful for this revelation 

 

 

Must be true - it's being reported by Daily Mail, Mirror, Fox news.


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  #2674845 15-Mar-2021 13:02
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Fred99:

 

Eva888: I hear she’s now planning to sit with the Democrats for President of the US.

 

 

 

Oh,  for f#%%# goodness sake.

 

 

 

If that happens, I'm going to Mars with Elon.  "You're going to a better place", like the last words from an executioner. 

 



I read it in a news aggregator and can’t guarantee the veracity. https://pagesix.com/2021/03/14/meghan-markle-reportedly-planning-to-run-for-us-president/

 

Yep and it was also in Tatler and Daily Mail apparently. Lady Colin Campbell, biographer is writing about it in her new book. Elon may need more spaceships.


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