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  #3076660 16-May-2023 10:03
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MikeB4:

I swear the bed has its own gravitational field. I have two ex military sons that I have assigned the task of moving said behemoth



Back in the 70's Wgtn technicians did a 2 week stint in the Fault Room. Older people were smarter then, I remember many record cards being marked that subscriber only reported faults when they needed help shifting furniture.

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  #3076669 16-May-2023 10:22
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The fact that credit and debit cards have expiry dates. Why?

It causes untold irritation when one of your cards expires and you have to deal with dozens of emails about your saved card details expiring.

I can’t think of any reason that they need expiry dates.

Edit: in fact, having expiry dates means a bazillion more bits of plastic being created and sent out annually: hardly environmentally sensitive.





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  #3076731 16-May-2023 10:46
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Geektastic: The fact that credit and debit cards have expiry dates. Why?

It causes untold irritation when one of your cards expires and you have to deal with dozens of emails about your saved card details expiring.

I can’t think of any reason that they need expiry dates.

Edit: in fact, having expiry dates means a bazillion more bits of plastic being created and sent out annually: hardly environmentally sensitive.

 

I put everything I can thru paypal so I don't have to deal with that, paypal just charge whatever I have on there for subs and products.

 

It's absurd that a recurring billing can't be set up to a bank without numbers off a piece of plastic they have to deliver to you, and if anyone gets those numbers you have to start again with everything. Paypal is such a timesaver.





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  #3076734 16-May-2023 10:50
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They can keep them upto date with more recent security features.?

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  #3076750 16-May-2023 11:10
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afe66: They can keep them upto date with more recent security features.?

 

 

 

Nothing to stop them doing that just because there is no fixed expiry date...






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  #3076755 16-May-2023 11:39
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Geektastic:

afe66: They can keep them upto date with more recent security features.?


 


Nothing to stop them doing that just because there is no fixed expiry date...



Well if the encryption on card needed to be updated you can't if they are in a million pockets

I expect it much easier to update the card machines with new firmware then update a lot of circulating cards.

Make the cards die after a suitable amount of time then reissue with most recent version. Also means stolen card numbers have limited lifespan

Having a date also got another bit of data you need to know in addition to name number?

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  #3076763 16-May-2023 12:16
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afe66: Well if the encryption on card needed to be updated you can't if they are in a million pockets

 

They're in a million pockets already.

 

Updated to add: If a new encryption standard comes along, then the bank can issue new cards with the new encryption, and then stop supporting the old encryption on a published date that can be set and announced if and when required. This is likely to be more secure (due to tighter timeframes) than a blanket "x years after the previous card was issued".


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  #3076768 16-May-2023 13:07
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Another one is I have a card where both mag stripe and chip are dead, only paywave works on it (Too many trips thru the washing machine)

 

It's used too many places online for me to want to replace it with a new number, and they can't replace a card with one that has the same number and everything on it when it goes faulty, so now I have to not use that one at places without paywave, and use my non rewards card. - 2 more years of this or so (probably 18 months now) and will have to replace it anyway.





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  #3076775 16-May-2023 13:19
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Some banks are now making this process much easier. ANZ have (and I'm sure other banks have also added this) implemented a service in the app where you can see the retailers where your card is currently stored for recurring payments. Makes it much easier to go and update your payment method when a new card is issued rather than wait for a reminder or your card to be declined.


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  #3076815 16-May-2023 15:13
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Geektastic: The fact that credit and debit cards have expiry dates. Why?

 

 

It's tied to your membership time in Diner's Club. When the merchant accepts your card as you hand it to them they use it to check that your membership is still current, then pull out the book of blocked card numbers that's posted out monthly and check that your card isn't on it. If all that succeeds, they charge your account. if not, you have to write a cheque.

 

 

Now, anyone know why the card number, or sections thereof, are printed on the card right below where they're embossed?

 

 

Edited to add: Pre-empting Poe's Law, that's actually where it comes from, it's not snark. The dual printing is another historic artefact to defend against a fraud technique from 50+ years ago that's still around today even though the fraud technique isn't possible any more.

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  #3076816 16-May-2023 15:15
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Senecio:

Some banks are now making this process much easier. ANZ have (and I'm sure other banks have also added this) implemented a service in the app where you can see the retailers where your card is currently stored for recurring payments.

 

 

Sigh, that means ASB will get it in about 2084. Any bets as to whether it'll be before or after they fix their "everything at once all the time" mess (see previous posts)?

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  #3076867 16-May-2023 15:25
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neb: It's tied to your membership time in Diner's Club. When the merchant accepts your card as you hand it to them they use it to check that your membership is still current, then pull out the book of blocked card numbers that's posted out monthly and check that your card isn't on it. If all that succeeds, they charge your account. if not, you have to write a cheque.



Book, posted, cheque what ancient language is this?

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  #3076898 16-May-2023 18:02
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Bung: Book, posted, cheque what ancient language is this?

 

Probably similar to the power outage, the app not working, the systems not redundant, the error handling not working, the communication channels overloaded in the event of a disaster, systems designed only for sunshine and ... the UPS not working, or the generator not being maintained, or [insert here what is hastily considered superfluous].😄

 

 

 

 

 

 





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  #3076908 16-May-2023 19:15
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neb: Now, anyone know why the card number, or sections thereof, are printed on the card right below where they're embossed? Edited to add: Pre-empting Poe's Law, that's actually where it comes from, it's not snark. The dual printing is another historic artefact to defend against a fraud technique from 50+ years ago that's still around today even though the fraud technique isn't possible any more.

 

They dont emboss anymore. Makes it easier to cover up with tape so that people cant see them as you use the card.

 

They still put some dots on it, apparantly braile so that stops them stacking nicely. I might try sanding them down to see it that reduces wallet thickness.





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  #3076945 16-May-2023 22:26
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Fixya, a site for asking questions about, well, fixing stuff, like a washing machine power switch. You're sitting there in the forum for XYZ Brand Washing Machines and post a question about the wiring for an XYZ Brand washing machine, which it dumps into Motorcycles - Miscellaneous, with no way to move it into the forum that you actually asked the question in. After four more attempts to get it posted in the forum you're currently in you give up and delete your account... which isn't possible, because they don't allow you to delete accounts.

 

 

How can a site this awful be so popular? Presumably it's because so many of the Google hits for fixing various appliances lead there, because it certainly isn't the site's functionality that does it.

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