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#3122451 1-Sep-2023 07:42

I can see it now....stock farmers installing panels to become carbon-neutral. And also sell the power back to the grid. The only problem I can foresee...the Oil Barons and the Power Company Barons are really going to hate the idea of stock farmers doing this.

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#3123809 5-Sep-2023 11:59

Another sobering read.

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#3123829 5-Sep-2023 12:59

Rikkitic: Another sobering read.

NZ has been strict on that for a long time. For us it's an incremental change to what we already do and not starting from scratch. Even so, we can count the ones we didn't see coming.

Europe and other places will need to face that and overcome it. Increasing controls and regulation and required services and maintenance for shipping and transit will be challenging as the number of potential issues increase with temperatures.

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#3123885 5-Sep-2023 15:48

The Black Rock Playa in northwestern Nevada is one of the largest, flattest, surfaces on Earth, covering approximately 500 square kilometers. It rarely rains.

The Burning Man Festival is a week-long large-scale desert campout focused on community, art, self-expression, and self-reliance held annually.

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#3123898 5-Sep-2023 16:35

kingdragonfly: The Burning Man Festival is a week-long large-scale desert campout focused on community, art, self-expression, and self-reliance held annually.

Well I mean it's a great opportunity for the attendees to demonstrate their self-reliance...

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#3123905 5-Sep-2023 16:52

Rikkitic:
Another sobering read.

Maybe.

However those of us from Europe should be more than used to plants and animals moving about due to lack of any significant barriers. They’ve been doing so long enough.

Adapt and overcome. After all sheep and cows could be “invasive species” depending on circumstances.

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#3123907 5-Sep-2023 16:53

kingdragonfly:

The Burning Man Festival is a week-long large-scale desert campout focused on community, art, self-expression, and self-reliance held annually.

It is an ongoing nostalgic attempt to re-create 1967's 'Human be-in', a hippy festival of music, drugs, dance, sex and generally uninhibited behaviour.

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#3123914 5-Sep-2023 17:39

I think they're taking the "dirty hippy" slang to literally :)

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#3123924 5-Sep-2023 18:19

Geektastic:

Maybe.

However those of us from Europe should be more than used to plants and animals moving about due to lack of any significant barriers. They’ve been doing so long enough.

Adapt and overcome. After all sheep and cows could be “invasive species” depending on circumstances.

Re watch the video

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#3124211 6-Sep-2023 16:16

Parody from Australia about Canada

Visit Canada!

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#3124222 6-Sep-2023 17:03

kingdragonfly: Parody from Australia about Canada

Visit Canada!

Honest Government Ad

Bit rich coming from Australia, whose government is pretty much equally in bed with the Gas exporters, the Coal exporters and the iron ore exporters,

Canada's got a much cleaner electricity grid than Australia as its got better hydro resources and went nuclear,....

Although Australia has a much better solar potential than Canada ever will....

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#3124224 6-Sep-2023 17:10

wellygary:
kingdragonfly: Parody from Australia about Canada

Visit Canada!

Honest Government Ad

Bit rich coming from Australia, whose government is pretty much equally in bed with the Gas exporters, the Coal exporters and the iron ore exporters,

Canada's got a much cleaner electricity grid than Australia as its got better hydro resources and went nuclear,....

Although Australia has a much better solar potential than Canada ever will....

You probably need to watch a few more of their videos...

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#3124444 7-Sep-2023 09:11

https://www.stuff.co.nz/world/300965634/climate-breakdown-has-begun-northern-hemispheres-summer-was-hottest-ever-measured-meteorologists-say

Not surprising. They feel that 1.5 and 2.0 degrees are now out of reach

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#3124447 7-Sep-2023 09:19

And National/Act's policies will slam the accelerator to the floor. Remove the EV incentive, restart fossil fuel exploration and new extraction, allow agriculture to pollute even more ... Sheer insanity.

Also, National's plan to install 10,000 EV chargers by 2030 ... did they pull that number out of their arses? As of 2019 there were, apparently, about 1300 petrol stations across New Zealand. If you assume it takes 10x longer to charge an EV than fuel a car, then 10,000 chargers seems reasonable ... except, modern EVs hardly ever need to be publicly charged when you can charge at home. Sure, there are always queues at free DC chargers - but that's because they're free, not because the owners need to be there.

Needs to be a lot more nuance to that policy. But I suspect the headline figure of <deep echoing voice>TEN THOUSAND CHARGERS</deep echoing voice> is all there is, with nothing behind it.

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#3124450 7-Sep-2023 09:30

SaltyNZ:

And National/Act's policies will slam the accelerator to the floor. Remove the EV incentive, restart fossil fuel exploration and new extraction, allow agriculture to pollute even more ... Sheer insanity.

Also, National's plan to install 10,000 EV chargers by 2030 ... did they pull that number out of their arses? As of 2019 there were, apparently, about 1300 petrol stations across New Zealand. If you assume it takes 10x longer to charge an EV than fuel a car, then 10,000 chargers seems reasonable ... except, modern EVs hardly ever need to be publicly charged when you can charge at home. Sure, there are always queues at free DC chargers - but that's because they're free, not because the owners need to be there.

Needs to be a lot more nuance to that policy. But I suspect the headline figure of <deep echoing voice>TEN THOUSAND CHARGERS</deep echoing voice> is all there is, with nothing behind it.

Reminds me of.......

"ONE MILLION DOLLARS"

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