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  #3212050 29-Mar-2024 13:07
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sir1963:

 

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In many cases they don’t “need” to charge a surcharge, they do it because they can. It’s the same as phantom “health and safety” charges.

It’s their business, they can do what they want. As a consumer I can tell them what I think or I can avoid those businesses.

I’m entirely ambivalent whether or not a business has the margin to be open. I also don’t really care if a cafe is open on a holiday. If they are open it annoys me that they charge a surcharge.

 

 

 

I will assume that you know which is which for their "need" to surcharge.

 

As a citizen I chose not to use any of them so that their staff can have a day off with the rest of their families.
You want special service on a public holiday, have the good grace to accept it will cost you extra for that privilege. Think of this being "after hours" cost that tradies , doctors, and many other businesses charge.

 

missing out on your coffee for one day will not kill you.

 

 

don't want special service, i want regular service.

 

You double your regular business for the day, just by the extra numbers, then add 10-15% on top of that, and you have easily made the extra labour costs and a nice little profit on the top. That's the issue here. Every other place is closed, so there is a lot more people to want to go out for breakfast/lunch etc because they don't have to be at work.

 

If it wasnt profitable for them to be open they wouldn't open.


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  #3212059 29-Mar-2024 13:33
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Jase2985:

 

don't want special service, i want regular service.

 

You double your regular business for the day, just by the extra numbers, then add 10-15% on top of that, and you have easily made the extra labour costs and a nice little profit on the top. That's the issue here. Every other place is closed, so there is a lot more people to want to go out for breakfast/lunch etc because they don't have to be at work.

 

If it wasnt profitable for them to be open they wouldn't open.

 

 

 

 

For regular service, go on a regular day. It IS special service, it is statutory holiday, and you expect people to give it up so you can have a coffee.

 

Have you any proof that their numbers are double their normal day ? Because it costs them double for staff.

 

Perhaps if they are going to be SOOOOOOOOO busy, they need to have extra staff on....which costs them double for those extra staff too.

 

 

 

Bottom line is, like any other business they are entitled to charge what they like, and if it upsets you that much, go to one of the places that is not open.

 

 

 

I have zero intention in demanding other people work on Stat days so I can enjoy my privilege of not having to work.....then complain is costs me a little bit more.


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  #3212061 29-Mar-2024 13:42
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sir1963:

 

I will assume that you know which is which for their "need" to surcharge.

 

 

It's irrelevant. It's a consumer choice to pay a surcharge.

 

 

 

 

As a citizen I chose not to use any of them so that their staff can have a day off with the rest of their families.

 

 

Along the same vein as the supposition you made, do you know which staff who don't work, are spending time with families. A lot of workers I know prefer to work holidays, as it gives them 1.5x pay AND they still have a day to spend with their families because of the time in lieu

 

No-one is getting stiffed under the current arrangements.

 

 

 


You want special service on a public holiday, have the good grace to accept it will cost you extra for that privilege. Think of this being "after hours" cost that tradies , doctors, and many other businesses charge.

 

missing out on your coffee for one day will not kill you.

 

 

I am not certainly NOT asking for special service on a public holiday. Regular service will be absolutely fine. I don't expect to be treated any differently, or be offered food or drink not on offer any other day. If the shop wants to be open, they can charge a surcharge, I will skip them and go where there is no surcharge, becuase, by your logic, they are going to need more support. It's a win/win for them and me. If people are happy to pay a surcharge, then it's a win/win for them and the shops that serve it. 

 

Further more, to your point I can miss out on my coffee for one day, I can, but many people use these public holidays to celebrate OUT with family, which is a 100% valid thing to do. 

 

I don't need your moral imperatives for me to make an informed decision on where I shop on public holidays.

 

 


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  #3212062 29-Mar-2024 13:42
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Now I am annoyed, that even on my non foodie forums I am exposed to moralistic lectures on where I shop on public holidays. 

 

 


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  #3212063 29-Mar-2024 13:44
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Jase2985:

 

If it wasnt profitable for them to be open they wouldn't open.

 

 

Oh, if I only had more than one +1 to give!

 

Surely, places that are open but don't charge a surcharge "need" the support more? :)

 

 


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  #3212064 29-Mar-2024 13:45
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sir1963:

 

Bottom line is, like any other business they are entitled to charge what they like, and if it upsets you that much, go to one of the places that is not open.

 

 

Umm, how!? :) 

 

 


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  #3212066 29-Mar-2024 13:48
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sir1963:

Handle9: 

In many cases they don’t “need” to charge a surcharge, they do it because they can. It’s the same as phantom “health and safety” charges.

It’s their business, they can do what they want. As a consumer I can tell them what I think or I can avoid those businesses.

I’m entirely ambivalent whether or not a business has the margin to be open. I also don’t really care if a cafe is open on a holiday. If they are open it annoys me that they charge a surcharge.


 


I will assume that you know which is which for their "need" to surcharge.


As a citizen I chose not to use any of them so that their staff can have a day off with the rest of their families.
You want special service on a public holiday, have the good grace to accept it will cost you extra for that privilege. Think of this being "after hours" cost that tradies , doctors, and many other businesses charge.


missing out on your coffee for one day will not kill you.



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  #3212067 29-Mar-2024 13:48
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networkn:

 

sir1963:

 

Bottom line is, like any other business they are entitled to charge what they like, and if it upsets you that much, go to one of the places that is not open.

 

 

Umm, how!? :) 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Exactly, because on public holidays their "regular service" is closed.


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  #3212068 29-Mar-2024 13:58
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networkn:

Now I am annoyed, that even on my non foodie forums I am exposed to moralistic lectures on where I shop on public holidays. 


 



It’s because not wanting to be ripped off makes you an evil person. The only way to remove the stain on your character is to immediately buy a rental property.

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  #3212069 29-Mar-2024 14:02
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Handle9:
networkn:

 

Now I am annoyed, that even on my non foodie forums I am exposed to moralistic lectures on where I shop on public holidays. 

 

 

 

 

 



It’s because not wanting to be ripped off makes you an evil person. The only way to remove the stain on your character is to immediately buy a rental property.

 

 

 

Ahhh...personal attacks now.....


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  #3212072 29-Mar-2024 14:18
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sir1963:

 

Bottom line is, like any other business they are entitled to charge what they like, and if it upsets you that much, go to one of the places that is not open.

 

 

Or, alternatively, go to one of the places that is open, charging regular price, for regular service. Your argument is a strawman.


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  #3212076 29-Mar-2024 14:46
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mudguard: Add to that, golf courses shutting their cafe/bar and not having the green keepers out on public holidays.

I mean it's a bonus revenue day and you should have the course tip top (for non golfers it's nice to have the greens mown every day).


Or worse, they schedule coring on a holiday week when you finally had time for golf.

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  #3212077 29-Mar-2024 14:51
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Technofreak:

 

 

 

My post was't about the time wasted as about having a temporary speed limit where there is no need. Drivers become desensitised to these limits and start ignoring them, as they were on that stretch of road. When there is a genuine need for a temporary limit they no longer slow down. It's a bit like the boy crying 'WOLF'. Rather than improving safety these unnecessary temporary limits reduce safety. 

 

 

Here's a prime example.  Only reason I can think of for the temporary 30 is that there are works happening nearby during the week but why leave it in place over a busy long weekend?

 





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  #3212078 29-Mar-2024 14:51
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Man, I wish there was some place to buy popcorn today!

 

 





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  #3212079 29-Mar-2024 14:54
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Technofreak:

 

 

 

My post was't about the time wasted as about having a temporary speed limit where there is no need. Drivers become desensitised to these limits and start ignoring them, as they were on that stretch of road. When there is a genuine need for a temporary limit they no longer slow down. It's a bit like the boy crying 'WOLF'. Rather than improving safety these unnecessary temporary limits reduce safety. 

 

 

 

 

Theres some road works on the north shore, bus lane out of action yet the other side of the road is down to 30, when there is a raised median strip in between, why? 


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