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  #3212080 29-Mar-2024 14:57
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Kyanar:

 

sir1963:

 

Bottom line is, like any other business they are entitled to charge what they like, and if it upsets you that much, go to one of the places that is not open.

 

 

Or, alternatively, go to one of the places that is open, charging regular price, for regular service. Your argument is a strawman.

 

 

 

 

If they are open, go for it, that business too is entitled to charge what it wants.

 

But lets do some math

 

On minimum wage for staff of $23/hr. Ordinary day for 8 hours the cost it $184.

 

For public holidays at time and a half it comes to $34.5/hr, so for 8 hours thats $276 extra cost per employee....minimum, because they STILL get a paid day off.

 

Assume 4 staff on, thats over $1000 of EXTRA cost over and above a "regular" day that you expect the business to suck it up...."because". And thats not including the work done after hours in cleaning and prepping for the next day.

 

 

 

Assume they make $2 profit on a medium flat white, they would need to sell 500 extra coffees that day or 62.5 per hour on just over 1 per minute to break even.

 

And they have the audacity to charge 10% on a $30 breakfast ($3) to cover the extra costs.

 

 

 

Now if we assume its an good cafe, something like Cuba St Cafe in Palmy, on weekends they are already busy, and they don't pay penal rates, so I am unsure where they are going to get the same busy and then have even MORE people because already you struggle to get somewhere to sit. So now for the effective same turn over they have significantly higher costs ( and they have more than 4 staff on) so you can cheap out on the cafe you claim enjoy.


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  #3212082 29-Mar-2024 15:01
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Geektastic: Receiving notice from our rural delivery postman that they’ll no longer deliver parcels to the door. The options will be

1) if it fits in the letter box, it’ll go there
2) we can buy a large box (unsecured) and leave it at the end of the drive, into which parcels will go (and potentially be stolen from)
3) get a card to collect from a depot that requires a 50km round trip to go to

I’m wondering what service I’m actually paying for when I pay for ‘delivery’.

 

Could you make/install some sort of secured box that is unlocked but can be locked by the delivery person?


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  #3212085 29-Mar-2024 15:10
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johno1234:
mudguard: Add to that, golf courses shutting their cafe/bar and not having the green keepers out on public holidays.

I mean it's a bonus revenue day and you should have the course tip top (for non golfers it's nice to have the greens mown every day).


Or worse, they schedule coring on a holiday week when you finally had time for golf.

 

 

 

Coring I'm a little bit torn on. As it depends on a few things. Weather and if the course owns their own equipment for it or not. But yeah, always seems to come at the worst time! 


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  #3212094 29-Mar-2024 15:54
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shk292:

Geektastic: Receiving notice from our rural delivery postman that they’ll no longer deliver parcels to the door. The options will be

1) if it fits in the letter box, it’ll go there
2) we can buy a large box (unsecured) and leave it at the end of the drive, into which parcels will go (and potentially be stolen from)
3) get a card to collect from a depot that requires a 50km round trip to go to

I’m wondering what service I’m actually paying for when I pay for ‘delivery’.


Could you make/install some sort of secured box that is unlocked but can be locked by the delivery person?



I suppose.

However, when I pay courier delivery fees I expect courier delivery to my door. If I’m not going to get that, should the cost not be reduced to match the reduced service?





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  #3212101 29-Mar-2024 16:11
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Geektastic: [I suppose.

However, when I pay courier delivery fees I expect courier delivery to my door. If I’m not going to get that, should the cost not be reduced to match the reduced service?

 

you know thats not how todays society works


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  #3212102 29-Mar-2024 16:17
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Knew it -

 

https://www.theguardian.com/music/2024/mar/29/song-lyrics-getting-simpler-more-repetitive-angry-and-self-obsessed-study

 

'Song lyrics really are becoming simpler and more repetitive'. - See, it not me at all, its them...





“The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.” -John Kenneth Galbraith

 

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  #3212104 29-Mar-2024 16:42
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Kyanar:

sir1963:


Bottom line is, like any other business they are entitled to charge what they like, and if it upsets you that much, go to one of the places that is not open.



Or, alternatively, go to one of the places that is open, charging regular price, for regular service. Your argument is a strawman.



I did. It was excellent and very busy despite literally being in the middle of nowhere and adding 80 minutes onto our drive today.

If anyone is near Jackson’s Bay during the summer season the Craypot is wonderful. They were probably the best chips I’ve had in New Zealand.

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  #3212105 29-Mar-2024 16:45
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Jase2985:

Geektastic: [I suppose.

However, when I pay courier delivery fees I expect courier delivery to my door. If I’m not going to get that, should the cost not be reduced to match the reduced service?


you know thats not how todays society works



Why not?





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  #3212117 29-Mar-2024 16:57
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Society works ?





“The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.” -John Kenneth Galbraith

 

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  #3212126 29-Mar-2024 17:44
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sir1963:

 

Ahhh...personal attacks now.....

 

 

Where?

 

Choosing to give my business to a business that does not charge a surcharge, isn't a moral matter, nor a legal one. Workers are not required to work public holidays, but are compensated well for doing so. Owners are not required to be open, choose to do so, because it's benefiting their business.  There is no legal or moral consideration here, it's a simple matter of choice for everyone involved to do what they feel is right for them. 

 

The only correct answer(s) to the question "does anyone know which places in x location are open without a public holiday surcharge?" is "Yep,  this place and that place are", or, if you feel the need to reply in the negative "nope, sorry". 

 

Nothing else is required. EVER. With that said, I am done. 

 

 

 

 


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  #3212132 29-Mar-2024 18:14
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Geektastic: 

Why not?

 

because "everyone" is out to make a buck for the least service possible

 

 

 

Quotes are there because its not everyone doing it but a lot of people.


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  #3212145 29-Mar-2024 19:06
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Vanishing grocery lines.

I’ve noticed over the last year or so that a number of things I like to buy have simply disappeared. For example,

1) Small chocolate desserts in yoghurt-like packing by French companies like Danone and Yoplait
2) Raguletto pasta sauce
3) Pam’s frozen croissant and pain au chocolat (both of which were actually made in France and were excellent)

There’s probably more.

It’s strange that these things, sold here for years, have just vanished without trace. If you’re like me and find change to routine etc very hard, this kind of thing assumes a significance it probably doesn’t have for most.





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  #3212162 29-Mar-2024 19:59
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richms:

Was the headline in the form of a question? Because those are always either a no, or it goes unanswered.

 

 

See also Betteridge's Law of Headlines.

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  #3212163 29-Mar-2024 20:00
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That Rainbow Confectionery have caught the "Cadbury Disease" of describing Easter LUMPS as Easter Eggs now as well!

 

I'd like to see any animal lay an egg in the shape of Cadbury's / Rainbow's interpretation!


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  #3212164 29-Mar-2024 20:04
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sir1963:

I would suggest a few hundred LGBTQ+ standing there in Rainbow shirts, playing the Lilly Allen song " F U " <fill in the gap yourself> on church days as parishioners turn up.

 

 

Dunno about the Lilly Allen song but the Alestorm version would be quite appropriate (very NSFW lyrics).

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