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#3212468 31-Mar-2024 13:04

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That Rainbow Confectionery have caught the "Cadbury Disease" of describing Easter LUMPS as Easter Eggs now as well!

I'd like to see any animal lay an egg in the shape of Cadbury's / Rainbow's interpretation!

Funnily enough, the Potter Bros ones have a picture of a half-egg on the box, but they're actually whole.

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#3212470 31-Mar-2024 13:23

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So people want to get the "benefits" of working those days, but some self entitled customers object to paying for those higher costs....

How is it "self entitled"? The business can charge extra if it wants, we just won't go there, and will go to a place that does not - because ultimately even if it's an extra $5,000 a day for them in costs, that averaged out across the entire year would move regular prices by what, a cent? The margins are not so razor thin as you like to claim.

I agree with @neb. We need a thread for "What's something small in the ""What's something small that really annoys you?"" thread that really annoys you?"

People claiming that if you don't have the same opinion as them you are self entitled or wrong. Definitely that.

Ahh yes...I won't spent extra with you... but I will drive around until I find someone who does not charge $1 more for a $10 breakfast on a public holiday...so how much fuel did you use ?

Your solution...charge EVERYONE more on every other day so you don't need to pay more on public holidays.

Buts lets use your $0.01 extra cost. that comes to them needing to sell 500,000 items during the year just to break even with that $5k, or 1369 items every day 365 days a year (8 hour days), or 171 per hour, or about 3 a minute for the entire time they are open, no lulls in customer numbers. To achieve that they will need to take on more full time staff, pushing up the costs 365 days a year, so prices will need to go up even further.

So tell me, how profitable are cafes ? Lots close every year and its not because they are so profitable.

Give some numbers, do the math.

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#3212473 31-Mar-2024 13:35

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Ahh yes...I won't spent extra with you... but I will drive around until I find someone who does not charge $1 more for a $10 breakfast on a public holiday...so how much fuel did you use ?

Zero, because I walk. And I don't need to walk far, because cafes near me don't charge extra. But you'll still insist that it's "self-entitled" to choose to go to places that don't charge extra. Capitalism is only right when it follows your rules, is that it? Yes, that's definitely something small that really annoys me.

I'm very much done with this line of conversation. Further replies on it will not be answered.

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#3212474 31-Mar-2024 13:39

The point is not how profitable or not a business is. The point is just freedom of choice. Businesses that want to be open should have the freedom to make that choice, and employees who don't want to work on holidays should also have the freedom to choose that.

What makes this whole discussion ridiculous is all the exemptions in the law. A supermarket in Auckland cannot sell food on a holiday because that is sacriligous or something equally absurd. But a supermarket in Queenstown can because of the tourist trade. So it is not a religous or ethical issue, purely a money one. As long as enough money is involved, it all magically becomes blessed by the pope or whatever.

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#3212487 31-Mar-2024 13:51

Easter Trading Rules discussion to prevent further pollution:

https://www.geekzone.co.nz/forums.asp?forumid=48&topicid=312252

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#3212489 31-Mar-2024 13:59

Zigg: Woolworth's ad on Spotify, "Vacay or Staycay" - as if Staycation didn't irritate me enough!

Ugh, phrases like this make my skin crawl.

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#3212490 31-Mar-2024 14:09

Rikkitic:

The point is not how profitable or not a business is. The point is just freedom of choice. Businesses that want to be open should have the freedom to make that choice, and employees who don't want to work on holidays should also have the freedom to choose that.

What makes this whole discussion ridiculous is all the exemptions in the law. A supermarket in Auckland cannot sell food on a holiday because that is sacriligous or something equally absurd. But a supermarket in Queenstown can because of the tourist trade. So it is not a religous or ethical issue, purely a money one. As long as enough money is involved, it all magically becomes blessed by the pope or whatever.

I agree the exceptions are stupid, these businesses should all be closed on public holidays.

I have been to tourist areas overseas where the shops are closed on Sundays. It's not a big issue, you adjust just like you do with the different currency and often language. We simply buy food the day before and consume it on the days they are closed , picnic on the beach, etc.
When we are in the USA later in the year ( family of 9 of us), we will be supermarket shopping for breakfast foods, drinks (water etc), snacks because it is cheaper than cafes etc. Yes we will be going out, we have Gordon Ramsay burger in Vegas to go to for a start as well as others.

And the "freedom" workers get is only when they sign that contract which spells out they can be required to work on public holidays, the big boss however will be on holiday with their family ....

22 days a year are public holidays.

To quote "If a businesses margins are that small they can not cope with this, they should be in a different business...."

Meantime, if the shop is going to be closed and I need something, I buy it sometime the week before, or in the days following, that shop has NOT gone without my money. I buy roughly the same amount of groceries every week irrespective of the number of days and hours they are open.

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#3212491 31-Mar-2024 14:11

Rikkitic:
The point is not how profitable or not a business is. The point is just freedom of choice. Businesses that want to be open should have the freedom to make that choice, and employees who don't want to work on holidays should also have the freedom to choose that.

What makes this whole discussion ridiculous is all the exemptions in the law. A supermarket in Auckland cannot sell food on a holiday because that is sacriligous or something equally absurd. But a supermarket in Queenstown can because of the tourist trade. So it is not a religous or ethical issue, purely a money one. As long as enough money is involved, it all magically becomes blessed by the pope or whatever.

The issue is getting a lecture or called entitled if you have a different opinion to one person. It gets a bit old.

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#3212497 31-Mar-2024 14:27

Handle9:
Rikkitic:

The point is not how profitable or not a business is. The point is just freedom of choice. Businesses that want to be open should have the freedom to make that choice, and employees who don't want to work on holidays should also have the freedom to choose that.

What makes this whole discussion ridiculous is all the exemptions in the law. A supermarket in Auckland cannot sell food on a holiday because that is sacriligous or something equally absurd. But a supermarket in Queenstown can because of the tourist trade. So it is not a religous or ethical issue, purely a money one. As long as enough money is involved, it all magically becomes blessed by the pope or whatever.

The issue is getting a lecture or called entitled if you have a different opinion to one person. It gets a bit old.

Et tu Brute....

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#3212502 31-Mar-2024 15:05

Handle9:

The issue is getting a lecture or called entitled if you have a different opinion to one person. It gets a bit old.

Not sure what you are responding to here. I haven't called anyone entitled and I'm not lecturing anyone, just venturing my opinion which is what these forums are for. I guess if that is too much for you, you can always unsubscribe from the thread.

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#3212505 31-Mar-2024 15:23

Rikkitic:

Handle9:

The issue is getting a lecture or called entitled if you have a different opinion to one person. It gets a bit old.

Not sure what you are responding to here. I haven't called anyone entitled and I'm not lecturing anyone, just venturing my opinion which is what these forums are for. I guess if that is too much for you, you can always unsubscribe from the thread.

why do you default to thinking its you?

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#3212508 31-Mar-2024 15:26

Jase2985:

why do you default to thinking its you?

Because it was posted as a quote to my post.

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#3212512 31-Mar-2024 15:47

On reflection I can see that maybe I misread it and it wasn't aimed at me. In that case I apologise. I have been embroiled in some heated discussions lately. In any case, this isn't one of those as far as I am concerned. I think shopkeers should be free to choose their own opening hours but I don't feel passionate about it either way. I also agree with the point that most people shouldn't have a hard time planning their shopping needs a day or two ahead.

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#3212513 31-Mar-2024 15:48

Kyanar:

sir1963:

Ahh yes...I won't spent extra with you... but I will drive around until I find someone who does not charge $1 more for a $10 breakfast on a public holiday...so how much fuel did you use ?

Zero, because I walk. And I don't need to walk far, because cafes near me don't charge extra. But you'll still insist that it's "self-entitled" to choose to go to places that don't charge extra. Capitalism is only right when it follows your rules, is that it? Yes, that's definitely something small that really annoys me.

I'm very much done with this line of conversation. Further replies on it will not be answered.

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/lifestyle/2024/03/analysis-why-6-is-too-cheap-for-a-coffee.html

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#3212536 31-Mar-2024 17:02

@sir1963 please take this discussion here now - it no longer belongs to this thread Public Holiday Trading Rules - Discussion (geekzone.co.nz)

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