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  #3248117 12-Jun-2024 17:12
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Who is Sherbert? Is he Herbert's brother or something?

 




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  #3248138 12-Jun-2024 17:52
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Behodar:

 

Who is Sherbert? Is he Herbert's brother or something?

 

{Sherbert Fizz display picture}

 

Sherbert (sometimes "sherbet") seems to be two completely different things on the opposite sides of the Atlantic.

 

On the UK side, it's powder that makes a 'fizzy' taste sensation when the ingredients react with the saliva in your mouth.
"The 'fizzing sensation' of sherbet is formed by an acid-base chemical reaction between citric acid and baking soda (which is a base), in the presence of a liquid (which in this case, is your saliva), causing tiny bubbles of carbon dioxide (CO2) that tickle your tongue."
https://gosciencekids.com/index.html%3Fp=748.html

 

On the USAian side of the pond, it seems to be an ice-cream-like frozen dessert - Websters American dictionary says "Sherbet, pronounced "SHER-but," is the usual word for the frozen sweet dessert made from fruit or fruit juices. Sherbert, with an additional r in the second syllable and pronounced "SHER-bert," is less commonly used." and goes on to observe "In Britain, sherbet is a sweet powder used to make a drink bubbly or eaten by itself."
https://www.merriam-webster.com/grammar/sherbet-vs-sherbert


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  #3248143 12-Jun-2024 18:02
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PolicyGuy:

 

Sherbert (sometimes "sherbet")

 

As far as I'm aware, "sherbert" is always wrong (at least outside the US; who knows what they do over there). My spellchecker rejects it, and the OED explicitly calls it out as a misspelling.




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  #3248173 12-Jun-2024 20:07
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Behodar:

 

PolicyGuy:

 

Sherbert (sometimes "sherbet")

 

As far as I'm aware, "sherbert" is always wrong (at least outside the US; who knows what they do over there). My spellchecker rejects it, and the OED explicitly calls it out as a misspelling.

 

 

Not sure about ‘always’: Wikipedia   says “Sherbet, often referred to as sherbert, is …”





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  #3248177 12-Jun-2024 20:18
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PolicyGuy:

Behodar:


Who is Sherbert? Is he Herbert's brother or something?


{Sherbert Fizz display picture}


Sherbert (sometimes "sherbet") seems to be two completely different things on the opposite sides of the Atlantic.


On the UK side, it's powder that makes a 'fizzy' taste sensation when the ingredients react with the saliva in your mouth.
"The 'fizzing sensation' of sherbet is formed by an acid-base chemical reaction between citric acid and baking soda (which is a base), in the presence of a liquid (which in this case, is your saliva), causing tiny bubbles of carbon dioxide (CO2) that tickle your tongue."
https://gosciencekids.com/index.html%3Fp=748.html


On the USAian side of the pond, it seems to be an ice-cream-like frozen dessert - Websters American dictionary says "Sherbet, pronounced "SHER-but," is the usual word for the frozen sweet dessert made from fruit or fruit juices. Sherbert, with an additional r in the second syllable and pronounced "SHER-bert," is less commonly used." and goes on to observe "In Britain, sherbet is a sweet powder used to make a drink bubbly or eaten by itself."
https://www.merriam-webster.com/grammar/sherbet-vs-sherbert



In UK night clubs it’s something different again and generally ingested nasally.

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  #3248202 12-Jun-2024 20:45
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Oh dear, I do seem to have stirred up a bit of debate here :)


 
 
 
 

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  #3248543 13-Jun-2024 17:56
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Sherbert (sometimes "sherbet") seems to be two completely different things on the opposite sides of the Atlantic.

 

 

 

On the UK side, it's powder that makes a 'fizzy' taste sensation when the ingredients react with the saliva in your mouth.
"The 'fizzing sensation' of sherbet is formed by an acid-base chemical reaction between citric acid and baking soda (which is a base), in the presence of a liquid (which in this case, is your saliva), causing tiny bubbles of carbon dioxide (CO2) that tickle your tongue."
https://gosciencekids.com/index.html%3Fp=748.html

 

 

 

On the USAian side of the pond, it seems to be an ice-cream-like frozen dessert - Websters American dictionary says "Sherbet, pronounced "SHER-but," is the usual word for the frozen sweet dessert made from fruit or fruit juices. Sherbert, with an additional r in the second syllable and pronounced "SHER-bert," is less commonly used." and goes on to observe "In Britain, sherbet is a sweet powder used to make a drink bubbly or eaten by itself."
https://www.merriam-webster.com/grammar/sherbet-vs-sherbert

 


In UK night clubs it’s something different again and generally ingested nasally.

 

And it's different again in Australia:

 





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  #3249420 15-Jun-2024 17:05
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It's interesting how some outlets mention a Chinese connection, and the 737 Max door "episode" but most forgo mentioning either completely.

New York Times: F.A.A. Investigating How Counterfeit Titanium Got Into Boeing and Airbus Jets
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F.A.A. Investigating How Counterfeit Titanium Got Into Boeing sand Airbus Jets
Spirit has suffered from quality issues and financial troubles in recent years, and it came under new scrutiny this year after the episode in January involving the door panel of the 737 Max, whose fuselage it makes.
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The issue appears to date to 2019 when a Turkish material supplier, Turkish Aerospace Industries, purchased a batch of titanium from a supplier in China, according to the people familiar with the issue. The Turkish company then sold that titanium to several companies that make aircraft parts, and those parts made their way to Spirit, which used them in Boeing and Airbus planes.
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  #3249421 15-Jun-2024 17:14
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Bolts of any material even faulty titanium would have prevented the 737 Max door issue if they'd been fitted. It's a quality problem but a separate issue.

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Bung: Bolts of any material even faulty titanium would have prevented the 737 Max door issue if they'd been fitted. It's a quality problem but a separate issue.

 

So far it looks like half-baked attempts to blame Boeing's woes on DEI haven't washed. Maybe scapegoating does have diminishing returns.

 





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  #3249425 15-Jun-2024 17:42
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Bung: Bolts of any material even faulty titanium would have prevented the 737 Max door issue if they'd been fitted. It's a quality problem but a separate issue.

 

 

 

You put a lot of trust in a lot of people when you get on an airplane.


 
 
 

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  #3249467 15-Jun-2024 21:31
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networkn:

 

Bung: Bolts of any material even faulty titanium would have prevented the 737 Max door issue if they'd been fitted. It's a quality problem but a separate issue.

 

 

 

You put a lot of trust in a lot of people when you get on an airplane.

 

 

Correct, however with the checks and balances that standard aviation practices demand for the installation of such items it should never be possible for this type of thing to happen. One person will do the job and another will check/inspect it was done and and one or most likely both people will sign to say they have done their job.

 

That this happened shows an extreme level of non compliance.





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  #3249469 15-Jun-2024 21:39
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Technofreak:

 

Correct, however with the checks and balances that standard aviation practices demand for the installation of such items it should never be possible for this type of thing to happen. One person will do the job and another will check/inspect it was done and and one or most likely both people will sign to say they have done their job.

 

That this happened shows an extreme level of non compliance.

 

 

it was a thing many decades ago when parts brokers where found to supply fake parts including fake paperwork. even air force one was found to have fake parts in it. there was a huge clamp down on it, no doubt its very tightly controlled these days.


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  #3249471 15-Jun-2024 21:48
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There were some quite recent fake parts scandals, in the last few months.

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  #3249476 15-Jun-2024 22:07
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tweake:

 

Technofreak:

 

Correct, however with the checks and balances that standard aviation practices demand for the installation of such items it should never be possible for this type of thing to happen. One person will do the job and another will check/inspect it was done and and one or most likely both people will sign to say they have done their job.

 

That this happened shows an extreme level of non compliance.

 

 

it was a thing many decades ago when parts brokers where found to supply fake parts including fake paperwork. even air force one was found to have fake parts in it. there was a huge clamp down on it, no doubt its very tightly controlled these days.

 

 

We're not talking fake parts here, just people not doing their job correctly. 

 

It's always been tightly controlled as far as parts tracability goes. Fraud is another thing.





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