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  #3481066 15-Apr-2026 16:09
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Geektastic:

 

Greenwashing and virtue signalling on product packaging. 

 

I don’t care who made it, where it was made, how much you paid them, what race or religion they were etc etc. 

 

 

 

Particularly it annoys me when it’s there as an irrelevant statement like something not harming orangutans. This I found on a product that contains zero ingredients from Sumatra or Borneo. 


 

By that yardstick, German beer should have the same marketing logo!

 

 

 

 

In the AirNZ lounge you can't have a takeaway coffee because of packaging waste. So instead of carrying your coffee onto the plane in a takeaway cup you drink half of it and discard half in the lounge. Then on the plane you have another coffee in a  ... disposable takeaway cup.

 

AirNZ must be the most virtue signaling corporate in NZ.

 

 


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  #3481133 15-Apr-2026 17:14
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Geektastic:

 

Greenwashing and virtue signalling on product packaging. 

 

I don’t care who made it, where it was made, how much you paid them, what race or religion they were etc etc. 

 

 

 

Particularly it annoys me when it’s there as an irrelevant statement like something not harming orangutans. This I found on a product that contains zero ingredients from Sumatra or Borneo. 


 

By that yardstick, German beer should have the same marketing logo!

 

 

I feel like I must have mentioned the "plant-based" tomato sauce in this thread at some point...


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  #3481138 15-Apr-2026 18:01
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gzt: People complaining about the mainstream media weather forecast. I mean get realistic.. feel free to rely on Alex Jones or point to someone that gets it right every time..

 

 

 

The Met service has put out 6 orange or red weather warnings for Rotorua and not one has happened, its getting to the boy who cried wolf stage 





Common sense is not as common as you think.


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  #3481139 15-Apr-2026 18:01
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Geektastic: Particularly it annoys me when it’s there as an irrelevant statement like something not harming orangutans. This I found on a product that contains zero ingredients from Sumatra or Borneo.

Many food items contain palm oil which is the thing usually held responsible for orangutan habitat destruction in those areas. Maybe this is a marketing angle for a product without palm oil when it's competitors are using it.

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  #3481154 15-Apr-2026 19:19
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vexxxboy:

 

gzt: People complaining about the mainstream media weather forecast. I mean get realistic.. feel free to rely on Alex Jones or point to someone that gets it right every time..

 

 

 

The Met service has put out 6 orange or red weather warnings for Rotorua and not one has happened, its getting to the boy who cried wolf stage 

 

 

due to cyclone Gabrielle and the lack of warnings there which resulted in widespread damage they have gone the other direction. better to have one and not need it than need it and not have it in terms of support/warning before the "incident"

 

 


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  #3481221 16-Apr-2026 07:36
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vexxxboy:

 

The Met service has put out 6 orange or red weather warnings for Rotorua and not one has happened, its getting to the boy who cried wolf stage 

 

 

They were absolutely slammed after the Auckland floods for not warning of the deluge, so now they are erring on the side of caution rather than "she'll be right". 


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  #3481259 16-Apr-2026 09:54
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cddt:

 

 

 

The Met service has put out 6 orange or red weather warnings for Rotorua and not one has happened, its getting to the boy who cried wolf stage 

 

 

 

They were absolutely slammed after the Auckland floods for not warning of the deluge, so now they are erring on the side of caution rather than "she'll be right". 

 

 

fair enough but after getting nothing close to right in Rotorua the next orange or red warning is going to be ignored and that could be just as bad as not warning us.





Common sense is not as common as you think.


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  #3481265 16-Apr-2026 10:05
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vexxxboy:

 

cddt:

 

The Met service has put out 6 orange or red weather warnings for Rotorua and not one has happened, its getting to the boy who cried wolf stage 

 

They were absolutely slammed after the Auckland floods for not warning of the deluge, so now they are erring on the side of caution rather than "she'll be right". 

 

 

fair enough but after getting nothing close to right in Rotorua the next orange or red warning is going to be ignored and that could be just as bad as not warning us.

 

 

It's a no-win situation.

 

We have a small island surrounded by two oceans and some quite varied terrain that makes forecasting complex at best.

 

Either they assume the best or worst.  Either way there is a reasonably high chance of being "wrong" to some degree.

 

Would you rather be prepared for something that might happen or blissfully unaware of it until it hits?





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  #3481268 16-Apr-2026 10:16
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geoffwnz:

 

It's a no-win situation.

 

We have a small island surrounded by two oceans and some quite varied terrain that makes forecasting complex at best.

 

Either they assume the best or worst.  Either way there is a reasonably high chance of being "wrong" to some degree.

 

Would you rather be prepared for something that might happen or blissfully unaware of it until it hits?

 

 

True.

 

 

 

They need to find some balance though.

 


As do Civil Defence.

 


We got 6 phone alerts on Saturday. 6. That is ridiculous. 1 (or maybe 2) would have been quite sufficient (and two or three years ago, there would have been none). They need to calm the 'Alert-pushing' team member down.


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  #3481277 16-Apr-2026 11:15
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This week I became aware of a business unit using some outdated software. They were on version 7, and the current version is 17.

 

Can I upgrade it straight from 7 to 17? Nope. You can upgrade it to 8.5 in one fell swoop, but no further.

 

How about 8.5 to 17? Nope. The documentation says you must first upgrade to 10 before you can upgrade to "latest".

 

So, upgrade from 8.5 to 10? Don't be silly: you need to be on 8.18 before you can upgrade to 10.

 

I finally get it onto 10 and try upgrading it to 17, and it crashes. I look up the error and find a few forum posts about it. It turns out that the documentation is outdated and was written when "latest" was an earlier version. You need to upgrade to 13 before you can upgrade to 17.

 

I really hope this is the last step because I'm going bonkers here.


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  #3481278 16-Apr-2026 11:34
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trig4

 

It's a no-win situation.

 

We have a small island surrounded by two oceans and some quite varied terrain that makes forecasting complex at best.

 

Either they assume the best or worst.  Either way there is a reasonably high chance of being "wrong" to some degree.

 

Would you rather be prepared for something that might happen or blissfully unaware of it until it hits?

 

 

 

True.

 

 

 

They need to find some balance though.

 


As do Civil Defence.

 


We got 6 phone alerts on Saturday. 6. That is ridiculous. 1 (or maybe 2) would have been quite sufficient (and two or three years ago, there would have been none). They need to calm the 'Alert-pushing' team member down.

 

 

Also the media also need to play there part and be sensible and not hype things up to insane levels like they just did





Common sense is not as common as you think.


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  #3481280 16-Apr-2026 11:36
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Good luck getting the media to be sensible.


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  #3481282 16-Apr-2026 11:51
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vexxxboy:

 

Also the media also need to play there part and be sensible and not hype things up to insane levels like they just did

 

 

Did anyone watch live TV here? I was in Gold Coast last year when that cyclone hit and the TV channels were absolutely mental. Starting about three days before the cyclone actually arrived, seemingly every ad break they cut to cyclone "news".

 

I didn't watch any NZ TV this time around, but was it that bad?


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  #3481288 16-Apr-2026 12:30
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Behodar: Did anyone watch live TV here? I was in Gold Coast last year when that cyclone hit and the TV channels were absolutely mental. Starting about three days before the cyclone actually arrived, seemingly every ad break they cut to cyclone "news".I didn't watch any NZ TV this time around, but was it that bad?

Queensland has a long history of destructive tropical cyclones every second year. Queenslanders know how bad those are and generally speaking want to avoid being killed. TV breaking the program to give cyclone updates seems very sensible and it's probably appreciated.

I don't watch free to air NZ tv. I might have actually if they were doing regular detailed updates. I was looking for something like that.

Instead I used metservice to get a general idea from the forecast. I cancelled my weekend plans. In retrospect my plans would have been achievable although less fun in the weather. In practice that was still a good decision for my family I think.

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  #3481291 16-Apr-2026 12:51
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Behodar:

 

This week I became aware of a business unit using some outdated software. They were on version 7, and the current version is 17.

 

Can I upgrade it straight from 7 to 17? Nope. You can upgrade it to 8.5 in one fell swoop, but no further.

 

How about 8.5 to 17? Nope. The documentation says you must first upgrade to 10 before you can upgrade to "latest".

 

So, upgrade from 8.5 to 10? Don't be silly: you need to be on 8.18 before you can upgrade to 10.

 

I finally get it onto 10 and try upgrading it to 17, and it crashes. I look up the error and find a few forum posts about it. It turns out that the documentation is outdated and was written when "latest" was an earlier version. You need to upgrade to 13 before you can upgrade to 17.

 

I really hope this is the last step because I'm going bonkers here.

 

I think you're remarkably lucky that all those old software versions are available for download on the vendor's site.
I've been in similar situations where I've had to beg for copies of older software through user group forums or ringing up mates in the same line of business "do you by any chance have a copy of version x.y.z lying around?" 


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