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#3257582 8-Jul-2024 19:26

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richms: Back then they probably protected it with something that causes cancer.

Creosote, according to the book.

Ever since they switched to organic wholemeal water (warning, possible carcinogen in the state of California) as a preservative things went to the dogs.

funny because its true 😂

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#3257632 8-Jul-2024 23:59

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This is the power pole removed near here today. (I told them 2 years ago that it was not good, and was told "The lines will hold it up!")

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My parents property in New Plymouth managed to get fibre trenched to the house, in an otherwise aerial only install area, because the pole immediately outside thier property had a "Do Not Climb" notice on it because of its condition.

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#3257698 9-Jul-2024 12:14

'Murica

Gunowners will be able to buy bullets '24/7' from vending machines that are 'as easy to use as an ATM' installed in grocery stores across three states | Daily Mail Online

Ammo ATM? AI-powered bullet vending machines introduced in US

Sometimes I use big words I don't always fully understand in an effort to make myself sound more photosynthesis.

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#3257711 9-Jul-2024 13:17

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'Murica

Gunowners will be able to buy bullets '24/7' from vending machines that are 'as easy to use as an ATM' installed in grocery stores across three states | Daily Mail Online

o thats bad. i'll bet there is a line of crims waiting to rip those off.

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#3257714 9-Jul-2024 13:19

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floydbloke:

'Murica

Gunowners will be able to buy bullets '24/7' from vending machines that are 'as easy to use as an ATM' installed in grocery stores across three states | Daily Mail Online

o thats bad. i'll bet there is a line of crims waiting to rip those off.

Please tell me it's April 1 already!

Delete cookies?! Are you insane?!

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#3257787 9-Jul-2024 16:23

floydbloke:

'Murica

Gunowners will be able to buy bullets '24/7' from vending machines that are 'as easy to use as an ATM' installed in grocery stores across three states | Daily Mail Online

A bit clickbaity, if you want to buy ammunition in quantity you go to the ammunition aisle in the supermarket and get it from there. They typically don't have military stuff like 5.56 FMJ but you can get that from any gun store.

(I don't know the state-by-state situation but it was certainly available in supermarkets in redneck areas I've been in).

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#3257803 9-Jul-2024 16:48

neb:

A bit clickbaity, if you want to buy ammunition in quantity you go to the ammunition aisle in the supermarket and get it from there. They typically don't have military stuff like 5.56 FMJ but you can get that from any gun store.

(I don't know the state-by-state situation but it was certainly available in supermarkets in redneck areas I've been in).

yep. even here ammo was/is sold at sporting shops and farm stores. nothing unusual.

the big difference in the usa was the price and volume. you can buy ammo by the bucket and people think nothing of shooting off a bucket of ammo for a bit of afternoon fun.

"military stuff like 5.56 fmj" thats to funny 🤣

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#3257811 9-Jul-2024 17:00

This is what I got to deal with today.... Direct from China...

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#3257849 9-Jul-2024 18:55

sir1963:

This is what I got to deal with today.... Direct from China...

Whats the problem? Earth not going anywhere or something?

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#3257852 9-Jul-2024 18:58

richms:

sir1963:

This is what I got to deal with today.... Direct from China...

Whats the problem? Earth not going anywhere or something?

Notice the two green wires, one connected to the red, the other connected to the blue ? Those are phase and neutral on the main switch....

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#3257854 9-Jul-2024 18:59

sir1963:

Notice the two green wires, one connected to the red, the other connected to the blue ? Those are phase and neutral on the main switch....

Yeah and? Its internal appliance wiring, they can use whatever they like. The tables in 3000 only cover fixed and flexible cables.

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#3257879 9-Jul-2024 20:26

richms:

sir1963:

Notice the two green wires, one connected to the red, the other connected to the blue ? Those are phase and neutral on the main switch....

Yeah and? Its internal appliance wiring, they can use whatever they like. The tables in 3000 only cover fixed and flexible cables.

AS/NZS 3100:2022 would disagree

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#3257888 9-Jul-2024 21:00

Firstly, if its come from china, you cant expect them to cater to NZ regs.

When a friend was bringing in appliances and some of them had green internal to them between switches and motors, an electrician who was hired to "install" one kicked up a stink and it was all fine in the end, and the end advice was that it was only the supply cord that mattered and had to comply with the standards for flex cords, which it did as it was swapped when they came into the country.

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#3257892 9-Jul-2024 21:15

floydbloke:

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No surprises there.

Surely you've seen (the somewhat controversial) Bowling For Columbine?

Open a bank account - walk out of the bank with a free gun

Grab a haircut. Would you like a few rounds for that there rifle?

You're not on Atlantis anymore, Duncan Idaho.

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#3257944 9-Jul-2024 21:40

richms:

Firstly, if its come from china, you cant expect them to cater to NZ regs.

When a friend was bringing in appliances and some of them had green internal to them between switches and motors, an electrician who was hired to "install" one kicked up a stink and it was all fine in the end, and the end advice was that it was only the supply cord that mattered and had to comply with the standards for flex cords, which it did as it was swapped when they came into the country.

Come on, where on earth (pun intended) is it appropriate for green to be both 230v AC phase and neutral right next to each other on the same switch, crimped to cables of the correct colour?

The electrician should have stuck to his guns and refused or insisted it go through a full TELARC compliance test. Personally I would have said NO and walked away

If this was extra low voltage signal wires (eg multicore wires) I would not care, I see that everyday, but on the mains side...BZZZZZZZZTTTT...FAIL... DANGER WILL ROBINSON DANGER DANGER.

However this bit of gear is for work, used in a Chemistry Lab. There were discussions with China prior to the end user ordering it about electrical requirements ( I have rewired a lot of Chinese made stuff, however I have also come across stuff that has been incredibly well designed and built, better than the some of stuff we have had out of Germany and the USA).

This is not some cheapo 5 minute wonder junk device , this is supposedly industrial quality and therefore I would have also presumed not to have such a basic screw up like this in it.

So...the saga will continue with everyone saying "not me" when it comes to being responsible for the rebuild costs. But until someone stumps up, it sits in the back of the workshop gathering dust.

On the plus side I fixed a large autoclave that had a death scream going on, sounded like a high pressure steam leak, but no, it was the rubber door gasket that had not been removed, cleaned and lubricated for ages (a fault others did not find and gave up on).

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