Yeah, one comment I saw said "trivial pursuits farting".

kingdragonfly: Cooking oil in China was contaminated with fuel oil, by re-using fuel containers. Similarly there was a scandal last week where at least one septic tank pumping truck, in poor condition. was used to transport drinking water.

 

This is the kind of crap that happens with no regulation. But don't say it to Seymour. He won't like it.

Why do I feel like I'm reading Thoughts on Time Travel?

kingdragonfly: The total value of cooking oil goods exported from New Zealand to China in 2023 was somewhere between NZD $31 to 100 billion.

kingdragonfly: 

The total value of cooking oil goods exported from New Zealand to China in 2023 was somewhere between NZD $31 to 100 billion. 

Yep - I’m sure it was - somewhere between NZ$31.00 and NZ$100b.

neb: Two things, firstly that would make exports in a minor industry that most people barely know about between one and three times bigger than our entire dairy industry and a significant fraction of our GDP, and secondly the data from a quick Google, which admittedly only went to 2019, showed vegetable oil exports at 5-10M a year.

freitasm:

 

kingdragonfly: Cooking oil in China was contaminated with fuel oil, by re-using fuel containers. Similarly there was a scandal last week where at least one septic tank pumping truck, in poor condition. was used to transport drinking water.

 

 

This is the kind of crap that happens with no regulation. But don't say it to Seymour. He won't like it.

 

Ah, but that sort of stuff has happened here with our regulation. A bit of googling using oil well drilling mud and milk as search items should produce something.  👍

Typed on my Sony Xperia III. 😇

kingdragonfly:

neb: Two things, firstly that would make exports in a minor industry that most people barely know about between one and three times bigger than our entire dairy industry and a significant fraction of our GDP, and secondly the data from a quick Google, which admittedly only went to 2019, showed vegetable oil exports at 5-10M a year.

I went by what Copiliot told me. I guess it's true that AI lies if it doesn't know the number.

Currently, it often lies even if it does know the number. Not worth using. 

freitasm:

 

kingdragonfly: Cooking oil in China was contaminated with fuel oil, by re-using fuel containers. Similarly there was a scandal last week where at least one septic tank pumping truck, in poor condition. was used to transport drinking water.

 

 

This is the kind of crap that happens with no regulation. But don't say it to Seymour. He won't like it.

 

This cartoon (from 2019 & still too relevant) comes to mind...

kingdragonfly: Good news for New Zealand

gzt:

 

kingdragonfly: Good news for New Zealand

 

 

New Zealand imports numerous food items from China. New Zealand also imports numerous food items from other countries that may or may not use China sourced vegetable oil. In practice China cooking oil exports are a tiny percentage of the world market and China is probably a net importer of cooking oils.

 

It's not a country I consider safe to provide food for my family. 

I look at every item I buy at the supermarkets. If there's a non-Chinese-origin alternative, I will get it.

Many of those "Indian" starters from the frozen section are made in China. Garlic comes in two flavours: China or New Zealand. and so on. 

This thing about the oil and water being transported in a septic tank truck are just examples. 

Could it happen in New Zealand or Australia? Sure, but I trust the regulations around food safety are more strict.