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#1263571 19-Mar-2015 17:11

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Please do not use a term for a congenital disability in this type of context.

It hasn't been a term for that since sometime in the roaring 80's. If you're still using it in that context you have more to worry about than how it's used in a forum post.

I completely disagree

His point is, I think, we shouldn't be calling anyone a "retard" anymore.

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#1263576 19-Mar-2015 17:18

But back to the point...
Yes I would have to say the standard of grammar from all forms of our media seems to be slipping. Some people don't really care, but I think if you are going into that line of work as a career, you should at least put some kind of effort in.

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#1263756 19-Mar-2015 23:40

bazzer:
KiwiNZ:
gehenna:
KiwiNZ:
Please do not use a term for a congenital disability in this type of context.

It hasn't been a term for that since sometime in the roaring 80's. If you're still using it in that context you have more to worry about than how it's used in a forum post.

I completely disagree

His point is, I think, we shouldn't be calling anyone a "retard" anymore.

It is a very good word to describe certain people, however and I am not personally a fan of words being 'banned'.

Celbutard was another good one I saw somewhere.

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#1263789 20-Mar-2015 07:21

But to get back to the topic.

The thing that irks me, and I know it shouldn't, is the Cub Reporters, particularly on TVNZ that use the word 'now' as a filler. I guess it makes a change from 'like' being inserted after every third word in a sentence, but only just.

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#1263790 20-Mar-2015 07:30

Toastmasters has helped me with filler words. Each meeting we have an "um" counter, they also count the other filler words. A hard filler to stop using is "you know".

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#1263803 20-Mar-2015 07:59

I recall reading somewhere that 'filler' words are just the brains way of giving itself time to catch up, especially when under stress?

Lazy is such an ugly word, I prefer to call it selective participation

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#1263818 20-Mar-2015 08:35

scuwp: I recall reading somewhere that 'filler' words are just the brains way of giving itself time to catch up, especially when under stress?

Well that certainly explains why so many of the latest crop of reporters use them so often.

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#1263825 20-Mar-2015 08:50

scuwp: I recall reading somewhere that 'filler' words are just the brains way of giving itself time to catch up, especially when under stress?

Yes. People also tend to speak more quickly when a bit nervous - despite adding more filler words. Write yourself a 10 minute speech, rehearse and time it. Deliver it in front of 500 people and unless you're good at it, it will probably "shrink" by up to half.

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#1263829 20-Mar-2015 08:54

Geektastic:
bazzer:
KiwiNZ:
gehenna:
KiwiNZ:
Please do not use a term for a congenital disability in this type of context.

It hasn't been a term for that since sometime in the roaring 80's. If you're still using it in that context you have more to worry about than how it's used in a forum post.

I completely disagree

His point is, I think, we shouldn't be calling anyone a "retard" anymore.

It is a very good word to describe certain people, however and I am not personally a fan of words being 'banned'.
Celbutard was another good one I saw somewhere.

And you don't know any better words?

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#1263831 20-Mar-2015 08:59

Geektastic:
bazzer:
KiwiNZ:
gehenna:
KiwiNZ:
Please do not use a term for a congenital disability in this type of context.

It hasn't been a term for that since sometime in the roaring 80's. If you're still using it in that context you have more to worry about than how it's used in a forum post.

I completely disagree

His point is, I think, we shouldn't be calling anyone a "retard" anymore.

It is a very good word to describe certain people, however and I am not personally a fan of words being 'banned'.

Celbutard was another good one I saw somewhere.

Commentard (cf The Register) seems apropos

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#1263833 20-Mar-2015 09:02

scuwp: I dnt no wot u meen, yng ppl hv a gd hndl on propr gramma. Sm skools evn tch it.

Their is nuthin wrong with my grandma.

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#1263837 20-Mar-2015 09:13

Geektastic: I get driven potty by the poor spelling and grammar that I encounter - and a complete inability exhibited by a significant number of organisations to proof read anything.

After 11 years, I have just about mastered understanding spoken Nuzild although even now there are some I encounter that I have to ask to repeat themselves!

I watched some TV news and things from the 70's and 80's and NZ was better spoken then than it seems to be now, at least on TV.

Then perhaps I can help you out with a common grammatical error above??!!

As you'll know, apostrophes are used for two purposes: ownership and contractions.

So, the use of the contraction in the term "80's" would apply to ownership, for example "1980's fashion". But, of course, that would be only related to fashion from 1980; for fashion related to the whole decade it would need to be "1980s' fashion".

And, if a decade is going to be shrunk to double digits, that's a contraction; so, referring to the decades in the text above it would be correctly written as "... from the '70s and '80s and NZ...".

(Happy to be labelled a pedant for this! A significant part of my job is editing and proof-reading...)

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#1263846 20-Mar-2015 09:22

scuwp: I recall reading somewhere that 'filler' words are just the brains way of giving itself time to catch up, especially when under stress?

Better to use pauses

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#1263869 20-Mar-2015 10:19

mdooher: I suppose it is less annoying than that twat on Radio Live in the afternoons who repeats himself continuously instead of using fillers

I'm not the only one! I have no idea how anyone listens to that guy. Sometimes he gets stuck like a record on one of his highly opinionated old people rants and constantly sounds like he's stuck up himself.

If anyone wants a good example of bad spelling, grammar or even short hand text speak, simply join the Facebook group: Hustle Live. When my IQ is feeling self conscious, I go there. You don't have to scroll very long to make yourself feel better.

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#1263880 20-Mar-2015 10:29

Geektastic:

It is a very good word to describe certain people, however and I am not personally a fan of words being 'banned'.

Celbutard was another good one I saw somewhere.

Most may know here that I am disabled, I have also worked with and still work supporting disabled persons, the word used in that context and similar is very offensive

I don't want to hijack this thread I just wanted to politely ask that folks refrain from using the word.

Here is a crazy notion, lets give peace a chance.

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