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#2177650 13-Feb-2019 13:52

Paul1977:

The biggest issue I see with that is what happens if you leave? You will forever be getting work related calls about a job you are no longer at.

This....

Mingling you private and work stuff is gonna be a pain to untangle.... plus it essentially makes you on call 24/7....

If they wont budge, go buy a mid range android phone and get a separate number for work, that gives you the freedom to "leave work behind" something that will vanish with a single device....

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#2177660 13-Feb-2019 14:06

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sen8or:

A tool of the trade as a BYOD? Sounds quite bizzare.

That said, I had a plumber fixing a leak the other day. He worked for a large outfit and said he had to supply all his own tools.

I have people that work for me who are employed by a large multi-national company who have to provide their own tools, that's not uncommon at all. However, the company pays a tool allowance for maintenance and upkeep.

That is standard practice for tradies. Hence the major dramas when building sites go into liquidation and tradies are locked out. Normally their personal tools are locked over night on site and therefore they cannot work until they are retrieved.

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Paul1977:

The biggest issue I see with that is what happens if you leave? You will forever be getting work related calls about a job you are no longer at.

This....

Mingling you private and work stuff is gonna be a pain to untangle.... plus it essentially makes you on call 24/7....

If they wont budge, go buy a mid range android phone and get a separate number for work, that gives you the freedom to "leave work behind" something that will vanish with a single device....

This I think this would be the best suggestion to friend. Get a cheap phone and only use it for work.

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#2177667 13-Feb-2019 14:14

thewabbit:
Thats what happens with me. I pay my bill, send it to the finance dept, they then reimburse me $40 of the total $55

Sounds like the reasoning is you have a personal phone already and on that basis you come out ahead. Without a second number on the same account that's not really true. Too many assumptions..

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#2177685 13-Feb-2019 14:44

Just make sure you do not sign if you see a clause that says "If you leave, the mobile number you brought with you is now at our mercy". But if you keep the billing in your name etc then this won't be an issue.

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#2177686 13-Feb-2019 14:44

It's becoming more common. My employer a big US multinational tech firm almost expects this (I haven't yet). In this case would involve installing Office 365 and all sorts of crap that adds as a kind of virtual seconds space

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#2177691 13-Feb-2019 14:53

Reason why i do dual sim phones now. Most dual phones let you turn off a sim. Which is handy when you go on holiday and you can just keep your personal number on.

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#2177727 13-Feb-2019 15:49

My phone has dual sim. It's amazing for this reason.

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#2177732 13-Feb-2019 15:56

I worked for a multi-national few years ago, and story was that you could use your own hardware, and the company would cover the monthly bill - but it would be under the company account, and you acknowledged that they could hold the number if/when you left.

If you didnt have a phone or a suitable one for the job, the company would supply one of their choice (which is where I came into it all, being the IT guy).

Were very few staff that left with the number they had been issued or started with......

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#2177733 13-Feb-2019 15:56

Batman: My phone has dual sim. It's amazing for this reason.

Until your employer specially states that no company it equipment is to be used in personal devices (can't put their sim in your phone) and that no personal it equipment is to be connected to company devices (no dual sim devices purchased) Exact opposite end of the spectrum to the OPs issue, but does illustrate how varied employer conditions can be.

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#2177784 13-Feb-2019 16:50

I run two phones, while it's annoying to carry both sometimes it means that I can turn the work one off and put it in my bag most of the time. We are allowed to BYOD a personal phone if we prefer but it just seem so very very wrong to mix business and personal on the same device. The other thing worth noting is that work provided phones are generally not flagship phones so you are not going to get as awesome a phone as I would buy myself.

My work phone is a iPhone 8. It's so tiny with such huge bezels compared to my Note 9.

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#2177809 13-Feb-2019 17:14

Last employer had a policy that every 2 years we got X dollars towards buying a phone. Was a reasonable sum towards a mid tier device and allowed people to pay in more if they wanted a better phone. They supplied the Sim and plan though.

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#2177819 13-Feb-2019 17:35

I work offshore for a large multinational.

The company provides a Sim card and we have the option of either an iPhone 7 or the equivalent of NZD$40 a month. I think it's great as I get to choose a device I am happy with (OnePlus 6) and work picks up the tab. It's a very fair policy imo.